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Competing Views of Government: Universal Medicare or Government-Protected Insurance Companies

by: Dean Baker, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

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A doctor reviewing a patient board. (Photo: Helen King / Corbis)

    We all know that people have different ideologies about the proper role of government. Some people, who tend to be left of center, think that the government's role is to try to promote the general good, by providing basic services, protecting the poor and the sick, and ensuring a well-working economy. On the other hand, there are others, who usually place themselves right of center, who believe that the proper role of government is to redistribute as much income as possible to the wealthy.

    These competing views of government are coming to a head in the debate over national health care reform. Those who think that the role of government is to serve the public good are likely to favor some form of universal Medicare. Such a system would almost certainly save a huge amount in administrative costs at the level of insurers, providers and government oversight.

    Private insurers spend more than 15 percent of the money they collect in premiums on administrative costs. By contrast, Medicare spends about 2 percent. Part of the insurers' administrative expenses go toward marketing - an expense that would be unnecessary in a universal Medicare system.

    The other major factor driving administrative costs with private insurers is associated with their efforts to game the system. Gaming is the best way to make profits in the current system. If insurers can find effective mechanisms for either keeping sick people from being insured, or finding ways to deny coverage for expensive care, then they stand to make large profits. Naturally, profit-maximizing insurers will therefore devote substantial resources to trying to avoid ways to provide health care to people who need it.

    At the level of providers, the wide range of divergent forms and policies employs hundreds of thousands of people in administrative positions in hospitals, doctors' offices, nursing homes and other providers. These people are often quite adept at dealing with various insurers, which is an important skill in our current system, but a task that would disappear if we had a universal Medicare system.

    Finally, the state and federal governments must devote substantial resources for oversight to police the practice of insurers. Oversight agencies are essential for limiting abuse. This task would be much simpler if there were not corporations that stood to profit by keeping people from getting needed care.

    While we could in principle shift to a universal Medicare system immediately, this would be an extremely difficult task politically and would present some serious practical problems as well. During his campaign, President Obama proposed something far more modest: give employers and individuals the choice to buy into a public Medicare-type program. Under this system, if people are happy with their current health care insurance, they would have the option to keep it. However, if they decided that the plan offered by the government was better, they could buy into it.

    In this situation, insurers would compete with the government plan in the market. If private insurers could offer health insurance that provided better coverage or charged less, then people would have the option to buy into a private plan. Of course, the government would also regulate the market so that private insurers could not cherry-pick their way to profitability by insuring only healthy people and dumping them when they became sick.

    The insurance industry already recognizes that it will lose out in this sort of competition. A government-run plan will be more efficient. We already know this based on the experience with Medicare. When private insurers have competed side by side with the traditional government Medicare plan, in the absence of government subsidies, the overwhelming majority of beneficiaries opted to go with the traditional Medicare plan.

    This is why the insurers are yelling that they don't want to face "unfair" competition from a government plan. But, their complaint should be all the endorsement that the public needs to support a public Medicare-type plan. The public plan will be cheaper and better than what the private insurers have to offer. Why shouldn't the public then have this option?

    We all know that the insurance industry executives and the company shareholders want to make lots of money, but maybe they should try to find an industry where they can compete. If the government can provide health insurance better and cheaper, then why do we need private insurers?

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Dean Baker is a macroeconomist and co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, DC. He previously worked as a senior economist at the Economic Policy Institute and an assistant professor at Bucknell University. He is a regular Truthout columnist and a member of Truthout's Board of Advisers.

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We don't need the

We don't need the blood/money sucking private health insurers! Last time I checked, there's nothing in the Constitution that says they have a right to exist!

I think the people to the

I think the people to the right of center are more concerned that the government not redistribute their wealth. Unfortunately, the government, through lack of sound business practices, (retention of non-productive employees, deferred maintenance, lack of commitment to fiscal responsibilities and reality, misdirection and inflexibility) may well consume an equal amount of resources to those returned to stockholders/owners and to the pockets of the management. Insurance is not a good mechanism for health care delivery - it is a business - which is designed to MAKE MONEY for the owners/stockholders. Fundamental to the insurance mechanism is the principle that the insured cannot be made better than he/she was prior to the loss - not exactly a part of the Hippocratic Oath.

We don't need private health

We don't need private health insurance companies! We don't need to make a profit off of the suffering and misery of others. It is wrong, it is immoral, and anyone that advocates for-profit health care of any sort is advocating an immoral position. We have known this for centuries, and have the great not for profit health care institutions as the foundation of our modern medical system. We do not need to bring back the leaches to medicine, and that is exactly what happened when we let for-profit medical care and insurance get a foot in the door of our health care system.

I've always said that the

I've always said that the goal of an insurance company is to NOT pay claims. The motivation of a private insurance company is not aligned with the interests of medical consumers. Why have such an organization in between yourself and medical care?

I have no issue with Baker's

I have no issue with Baker's analysis but think it's frame reveals how much the "center" has moved to the right over the past 30 years. Both sides of the issue as presented are presented as if "the government" is something that exists independently of us. A better frame would be to say that it is a question of whether health care should be provided by the people for the people, or rather by private insurance interests regulated by the People.

But that's Commynism!!! I

But that's Commynism!!! I don't want Fidel Castro messing with my health care!!

Bankrupt because of medical

Bankrupt because of medical bills shows the system is corrupt. Even people with insurance are going bankrupt because of medical bills. If you have open heart surgery at a cost of $100,000, many people with insurance end up having to pay $25,000 for the deductable. If you have insurance, it may lead to you having open heart surgery even if you don't need it because they profit even if only the 75,000 is paid. I know someone this happened to. Thank you, Dean Baker, for this great article.

Anyone who has had the

Anyone who has had the experience of being sick in any other developed country (and is not rich) knows that the US system is of benefit only to those who own it.

MY job went to India two

MY job went to India two years ago. I'll shed no tears when the insurance hacks, their unethical medical co-conspirators and all the funky middle men who make the American universal illness plan [for that's what it boils down to] so dysfunctional have to do something socially useful with their time. 'Bout time; and then some.

PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO

PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO CHOICE IN THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER AREA OF HEALTH CARE. A "UNIVERSAL SINGLE-PAYER" SYSTEM QUICKLY WOULD BECOME "MANDATORY" AND DENY INDIVIDUALS THIS CHOICE. DOES ANYONE IN THE U.S. REALLY TRUST GOVERNMENT WITH THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION? (LOOK AT THE BUSH/CHENEY YEARS.) A "UNIVERSAL" SYSTEM MEANS ANOTHER BIG FILE ON EVERYONE WITH SENSITIVE PERSONAL DATA. THINK ABOUT THIS; SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE POLITICAL LEFT DON'T. IT IS CERTAINLY TRUE MANY PEOPLE HAVE NO CHOICE IN HEALTH INSURANCE; THEY NEED ACCESS TO SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. OBAMA'S APPROACH IS TOTALLY RIGHT. IT GIVES PEOPLE CHOICE.

Insurance is expensive,

Insurance is expensive, because the cost of health care is too high. The cost of health care is high, because of government involvement. Before medicare, the hospitals tried to charge as little as possible for the services provided. Prices went up when medicare was created. Ever think there might be a reason why? There is no way our government could handle universal health care. We can't pay the bills now without having to borrow money from China or simply just print it. Besides, have you even stepped foot into a veteran's hospital? Universal health, another way to make the rich even richer.

When in the last fifty years

When in the last fifty years has our government proven that it could run anything more effectively than a private business? A lot of large corporations run their own medical insurance for their employees and deduct a competitive fee for their policies. The Constitution of the United States does not give government the right to control much of anything except to protect us from invasion. establish laws to keep us from killing each other and collect the money to provide only those very basic services. If you want socialism move to Cuba, N. Vietnam, N. Korea, or any of the other countries the Communists have plundered!

Baker's article misses the

Baker's article misses the biggest issue of all, which is the corruption of the medical science itself due to the profound conflicts of interest that pervade the system, especially the FDA and Medical school's relationship to Pharmaceuticals and Hospitals. By example, the U. of Wisconsin study recently showed a 75% drop in breast cancer in women from taking a puny 800 IU of vitamin D, while M.D.'s were taught all these years that Vitamin D is toxic (never learning the difference between D2 and D3). Medicine - socialized or private - would cost 1/4 or less of what it costs now if these conflicts of interest were broken. Example, FDA evaluators vote on licensing drugs from companies they own stock in. The data simply looks different when one conclusion makes you a millionaire. This is the tip of the iceberg.

This article is right on!

This article is right on! We don't need the for-profit insurance companies, and the plans now on the table are little more than bailouts of insurance companies, also in trouble due to the shrinking economy. In the long run, it might be harder for President Obama to pass the restrictions and regulations necessary to allow the insurers to continue than to simply convert to a single-payer system, like H.R. 676. The news blackout on single-payer and the fact that they had to force their way into the health care forum (the intention was to exclude single-payer from all consideration) are another sign that they are frightening the profit-oriented industry.

All the premises of our

All the premises of our current system are wrong, wrong, wrong. We MUST keep fighting to take our power back from corporate interests on all fronts. Every damn one of them.

Dean Baker most likely knows

Dean Baker most likely knows that the US public is in favor, by a majority that is not squeaky, of medicare for all, and also single-payer. So, calling it a battle of two ideologies is a bit skewered. Recently, it was pointed out by FAIR that in the discussions of health care reform on major media, there were only a few who spoke about single-payer, or medicare for all contrasted with at least ten times more advocating keeping private insurers. The Congress is heavily lopsided and titled toward money sources/campaign funding, which are: surprise! insurance industry and big pharma. I look forward to when primary races will give us candidates to elect who reflect what the public wants in re single-payer or medicare for all. It's cheaper to have single-payer. Reframe the argument, if you need to Dean Baker, et al. And add that campaign finance reform is needed. Which will come first? Single-payer health care or public financed elections?

Our current "sickenss care

Our current "sickenss care system" system is the same as Katrina only a bit more subtle....The US does NOT care about it's people, This is USA, Inc....the govt run by corporations witht the only goal being profit. This seems a contradiction to health care. THe media & gov't have billed socialized medicine as communism to make us afraid of it. Our schools, police, firefighters & socail security ARE socialized. We rank #39 in the world (according to WHO) for mecical care....right below Costa Rica. It is shamefull that we are (still at the moment) the richest country in the world yet we walk away from our citizens. I am ready to leave the country! What ever happened to "We the People"? Those who are so opposed to socialized medicine...I ask you...have you actually done your research or do you just take your sound bites from the censored/controlled media?

Thank you, Dean Baker for

Thank you, Dean Baker for making the solution be so clear. Private insurers have been ripping us off for years and all we have to show for it is inferior health statistics--we don't live as long or as healthily; we have higher infant mortality and higher maternal death rates than other industrialized nations. The time of the private insurance company is done. We the People need Medicare for all to protect our Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness---in other words to protect our wellness. .

We need universal access to

We need universal access to health care--no doubt about it. But Dean Baker's black-and-white "single payer good, private insurance bad" assessment is more propagandistic than informative. There are people with legitimate privacy and choice concerns regarding single-payer systems. (For example, last I checked, vitamins in any reasonable potency are available in Norway only by prescription.) But clearly, a strictly private delivery system is profit oriented, not health oriented, and profits are maximized through the withholding of care. I think a system along the lines President Obama has proposed is a reasonable compromise. A well-run publicly run program as a viable alternative to private insurance will help keep the private AND public insurers in line.

The single-payer system is

The single-payer system is embodied in HR 676, written by John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich. Call your Congressional representative TODAY and get them on board. A list of co-sponsors is available at: www.hr676.org

I'm self employed and

I'm self employed and currently live in BogotΓ‘ Colombia. This country has universal health care, with options. Everyone who works contributes 6% of their income to medical coverage; the employer kicks in another 6%. If you're self employed you cover both halves. For me, this would come to about $50 per month. This gives you basic care, including hospitalization and the cost of our medications. If you want more, you can buy a supplement that will guarantee you a private room in hospital and the ability to see a specialist without getting a referral from your regular doctor. Supplements cost around another $85 a month. I haven't signed up for the basic or supplemental program yet, but frankly, the basic sounds like all most of us need unless we think we're too special to share a hospital room... Unfortunately, still uninsured here, I just got a case of kidney stones. I went to a private hospital emergency room. Looks and operates just like any good hospital in the US. Highly professional and efficient. Was there for about six hours. The total cost for emergency attention, morphine and anti nausea drugs, consultation with urologist, various labs, and a CT scan was $385. And nearly $200 of that was just the CT scan. This Wednesday I'll have an ultrasound to see if the stones are still there. That will cost me $76.50. I am SO glad this happened to me here in Colombia, because GOD KNOWS what the same help would have cost me - uninsured - in the US! When I consider that in health care Colombia is WAY ahead of the US, it makes me wonder what in the world is the matter with us Gringos?

The different ideologies

The different ideologies about the proper role of government date back to the very beginning of the United States; we inherited them from England. The opposing views of government and democracy consisted of those who viewed elected officials as servants of the people, subject to criticism, recall, and dismissal at the will of those who elected them, and those who believed that the rulers of the people were superior to the people and that their authority was not to be eroded by criticism, especially not by the average citizen (Thomas Jefferson and James Madison held the former view; John Adams and Alexander Hamilton held the latter). These competing views of government are clashing again in the debate over national health care reform. It would be an oversimplification to say that those who are elitists oppose health care reform and those who are not, support it, but it is not difficult to guess which view the insurance comppanies hold. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights uphold the right to free and open discussion of public affairs. We should be aware of, and grateful to, the framers, who believed that government was a servant of the people. Without their wisdom we would not be having a free and open discussion about health care reform.

The 'Competing Views' of

The 'Competing Views' of America lead us to a question... Is the era of Republikan backed Corporate Ownership of America over or not...?... ooops.., It leads to two questions.... Where in the Constitution does it say--- WE The Corporations...?... If the Era of America The Corporate is over, then where better to demonstrate that its over by Bringing Back the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE IN MEDIA... And... If Democrats in Congress actually have Majority and a Spine now with Patriotic Bones attached to it, then they will have the gumption and motivation to take on the 6-7 Gigantic Corporations that own and operate almost all Media in America just like a Monopoly. They will craft Legislation to Break that Monopoly Grip they have on American Media by forcing them to sell off large portions of their media holdings to a wide variety of contending bidders, all of whom will then have to abide by a Fairness Doctrine when presenting political points of view. Imagine Rushbo actually having to allow and/or debate other Diverse Points of view while his Rushbots are tuned in..((''WoW''))... After all, FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.... But... There is no Constitutional Right that grants a few Corporations the Right to own all the Media in America so that only their Free Speech can be heard. In fact, its a National Tragedy that such a situation exists in America... Its a nightmare Right out of George Orwell's Novel--- '1984'....

Two things: One -the term

Two things: One -the term "taxes" used to describe how universal health care would be paid for is predjudicial- do you call the bill you pay for your PRIVATE coverage a "tax"? No. Two: To those who throw up the red herring about "government determining what care you receive", take a look at what insurance companies do routinely; they pay doctors to review files and figure out how to deny coverage - not based on true medical need, but only on the insurer's bottom line.

Germany has a health-care

Germany has a health-care system that: - covers everybody, employed or not; - is very easy to use, just minutes to arrange billing; - allows people who want to spend more money to get extra or prioritized service. So basic health-care, of excellent general quality, is available to everyone, and loss of employment does not imply loss of coverage (as it does in the US); but an individual of greater than average means can choose a broader coverage. If Germany can do it, why can't the US?

Mr. Lukens: You do know

Mr. Lukens: You do know that Canada, Britain, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy etc. ALL have single payer universal health care, don't you? The Ayn Rand arguments only work in fiction, friend. I, too, wish it were otherwise, but alas, it isn't!

Just counting up the

Just counting up the government-haters v. responders who think Dean Baker is right, I would be willing to put the issue to a vote right now. When are you "the government can't do anything right" people going to wake up! It's private, for-profit health insurers who have gotten us into this mess. Health insurance company executives are cut from the same cloth as Wall Street financial corporation executives. They can't be trusted to replace the simplicity of greed with the more difficult question of what is wisely in the best interests of people. I can see choosing a private health insurance plan if you're the type of person whose ideological blinders are so tight you will hurt yourselves and your families just to be "a pure capitalist." But Obama's plan allows for that.

Germany's health insurance

Germany's health insurance system actually is NOT universal single-payer but a large group of semi-public sickness funds (more than 100) and some private insurers. France's system is possibly similar. It isn't without problems but might be a reasonable model here if it's not "mandatory". It's important that personal rights be respected in any system change; a mob mentality is unacceptable. Some of the commentary here is more ideological than reasoned; this has happened in Congress before too.

I am an American living in

I am an American living in Canada. One of the great benefits of living on this side of the border is SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH INSURANCE. I have used the health care system here many times and I find it to be superior in nearly every way to the American system. When my parents visited me once, my mother needed an emergency visit to the hospital, where she received excellent care. It cost her nothing, but even if the service had not been covered, it would have been far cheaper than the same service in the states because administrative costs are lower in a single-payer system. America is a third-world country when it comes to health care, and everyone knows it - except Americans.

Okay, folks, time to get

Okay, folks, time to get those phone calls and letters moving toward your congress critters. Cos you know your friendly big pharma and bio-tech lobbbyists are beating a path to their doors as we sit here. The good Sen. Baucus, who is the Senate Finance chairman, has already said that the people of the US "aren't ready for a single payer health care system". The polls say differently, senator.

Lukens says "When in the

Lukens says "When in the last fifty years has our government proven that it could run anything more effectively than a private business?" So by effectively running business, you mean like GM or Ford, or Lehman Brothers or CitiBank or Countrywide or Bank of America or Chrysler or AIG. At least if the government runs it, there's a chance we can throw the bums out. In the private sector, we don't even know who's involved. It gets tiring hearing that private industry is more efficient. If humans are involved, there's inefficiency. At least with government there's some hope of transparency.

One option that I have never

One option that I have never heard discussed is to divide the insurance coverage into 2 distinct parts, (markets?). This method was used for the automobile insurance market in Saskatchewan, Canada, when I lived there in 1962.I believe it was initiated by the administration of Premier Tommy Douglas who designed and implemented it years before. I found it to be very fair and economical. Everybody was required to purchase a basic coverage, about $50,000 costing me about $200.00 per year in todays dollars. This was underwritten by a public owned government regulated company. The driver was then free to purchase additional insurance through private insurance companies, if he/she chose to do so, that would cover any additional accident costs above $50,000. I purchased an additional $1 million dollars coverage, for myself for about $50.00 per year in todays dollars. Since it was assumed that this accident cost would seldom be needed the cost was fairly low. Everybody was happy with the program. I believe it may still be in place today.

Does anyone see value in

Does anyone see value in framing a form of single payer/universal heath care as a matter of national defense? It would seem after the events of the last eight years that if we were healthier and better educated we would not get ourselves into such ridiculous situations.

all the rich industrialized

all the rich industrialized modern countries have a universal healthcare plan w/ some private elements to supplement it, and they're happy with it. pointing the finger at canada's problems while ignoring the others like britain, france, germany, japan, etc. is kinda dishonest. canada has problems, of course, but dats bc of the fact that the landmass is large while the labor supply of doctors and nurses is a bit small. you don't see europeans or east asians (in japan, taiwan, korea, etc) complaining bc they're satisfied with their plans and want no part of a system any part of ours. and if they did we'd know it bc it'd be aired all over fox, msnbc, cnn, and cnbc so that americans could 'know' once and for all that universal healthcare is not only 'communist' but also bad. people can point at universal healthcare's problems all they want. this is the real world, everything has its shortcomings, and universal healthcare is no different. but lets be rational and scientific and do a cost-benefit analysis. which one comes out on top. universal healthcare, on all objective measures. that's why cuba has similar healthcare outcomes and service to the US despite being a poor, 3rd-world country suffering from crippling sanctions and blockades from the US. if right-wingers can actually engage in debate and explain why it is that universal healthcare systems in the 1st-world are so effective despite 'government inefficiency and bureaucracy,' they'll have the 70% or so of americans who've wanted some kind of universal healthcare system for the past 3 decades convinced.

The only thing that

The only thing that irritates me about Dean Baker's piece is that it says what I have come to believe so much better than I can say it! I am elderly and on Medicare with a retirement supplemental that covers everything, including prescription drugs, and Medicare shortfalls in payment authorizations. However, I am surrounded by my fellow citizens and relatives who have no health care at all! Nada, nothing, except passing the donation can for charity donations, which is announced in the local paper constantly. Sad. Expanding Medicare must include wrenching away the drug monopoly from the same ravenous, greedy and vicious Insurance Companies that are enriching themselves from the so-called Medicare "Modernization Act", which is in reality a poison pill designed to destroy Medicare! Universal Medicare, with drug, dental, vision, audio, and that covers mental illness, and any other ailment that could attack a person's health: that is the answer, and then we could be said to be truly civilized, and could proudly join the family of nations that have taken these steps before us.

It is time for a universal

It is time for a universal medicare-type of health insurance for all Americans. A profit based health system was the end of quality insurance. Medical care and coverage, left in the hands of the pirates who now control private health insurance, is the problem. The vast majority of Americans support a government-run system of a Medicare-style health insurance plan. For those who are satisfied with their private health plan, and the exorbitant costs associated with it, then by all means keep it. Pres. Obama has no intentions of taking that right away from any American. However, for the millions of us who do not WANT to keep a ridiculously inflated, expensive, inadequate type of 'private' insurance plan, then we also deserve the right to opt out of this FOR-PROFIT system and opt in to a government Medicare-style plan. It's that simple, capitalism at its' purest. Competition.

Support the Conyer's Bill HR

Support the Conyer's Bill HR 676 calling for universal health coverage in America. Contact your senators and representatives telling them you want them to support the bill!

During a visit to

During a visit to Ireland last year, I asked everyone that I met to tell me about their single-payer health insurance system. Universally, they said that one has to also have private insurance if you want to even see your primary care doctor in a timely fashion let alone specialists. In addition, the top income tax rate is higher in Ireland PLUS there is the VAT tax that can be as high as 18% on retail goods. Be careful what you ask for... Instead, I like the President's approach, namely, having a Government plan competing with the private companies. It would hopefully also put pressure on the Medicare portion to pay doctors in a timely fashion compared to the problems that they face under the present Medicare system.

Addendum to the comment

Addendum to the comment "Mon, 03/09/2009 - 16:46 β€” Anonymous (not verified)" I live in Costa Rica and subscribed to the (mandatory) governmental health care insurance. For the whole of $60 a month. Costa Rica not only has a better health casre system (as per WHO ranking) but it is also somewhat (!) cheaper. Now, I also happen to be French. France has (still according to the WHO one of the two best health care systems in the world. I could subscribe to it (even living abroad) for $200 a month (top bracket: it is also a cost proportional to your income). When I travel to the US, I always buy a costarican government additional health insurance to cover my... health, with an average of about $85 for between two and four weeks. Of course I buy that additional insurance: I don't want to risk being bankrupt if anything happens to me. This is what happens to too many US citizens (#1 cause of bankruptcy in the US). All in all I clearly have the notion that the US system is simply gamed by the big actors.

Anyone seen the movie,

Anyone seen the movie, "SICKO"? It's a real eye-opener. You Republicans will BURN IN HELL for all the LIES you perpetuated about socialized medicine, and what your Party did to systematically deprive this country of universal health care that the rest of the democratic, industrialized world enjoys.

I am so tired of all this

I am so tired of all this debate. The bottom line is we need to really begin to think about our values. We need to ask ourselves, what type of country are we that we allow corporations to make Profits on Health Care. We are Thirty Third across the globe in providing care for our citizens. Why aren't the powers that be more concerned about that then protecting insurance companies and their profits. Who is running this show anyhow?

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