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Everyone Should See "Torturing Democracy"

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A scene from "Torturing Democracy." (Image: TorturingDemocracy.org)

    In all the recent debate over torture, many of our Beltway pundits and politicians have twisted themselves into verbal contortions to avoid using the word at all.

    During his speech to the conservative American Enterprise Institute last week - immediately on the heels of President Obama's address at the National Archives - former Vice President Dick Cheney used the euphemism "enhanced interrogation" a full dozen times.

    Smothering the reality of torture in euphemism, of course, has a political value, enabling its defenders to diminish the horror and possible illegality. It also gives partisans the opening they need to divert our attention by turning the future of the prison at Guantanamo Bay into a "wedge issue," as noted on the front page of Sunday's New York Times.

    According to the Times, "Armed with polling data that show a narrow majority of support for keeping the prison open and deep fear about the detainees, Republicans in Congress started laying plans even before the inauguration to make the debate over Guantanamo Bay a question of local community safety instead of one about national character and principles."

    No political party would dare make torture a cornerstone of its rejuvenation if people really understood what it is. And lest we forget, we're not just talking about waterboarding, itself a trivializing euphemism for drowning.

    If we want to know what torture is, and what it does to human beings, we have to look at it squarely, without flinching. That's just what a powerful and important film, seen by far too few Americans, does. "Torturing Democracy" was written and produced by one of America's outstanding documentary reporters, Sherry Jones. (Excerpts from the film are being shown on the current edition of Bill Moyers Journal on PBS - check local listings, or go to the program's web site at www.pbs.org/moyers, where you can be linked to the entire 90-minute documentary.)

    Sherry Jones, a longtime colleague, and the film were honored this week with the prestigious RFK Journalism Award from the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights. "Torturing Democracy" was cited for its "meticulous reporting," and described as "the definitive broadcast account of a deeply troubling chapter in recent American history."

    Unfortunately, as events demonstrate, the story is not yet history; the early chapters aren't even closed. Torture still is being defended as a matter of national security, although by law it is a war crime, with those who authorized and executed it liable for prosecution as war criminals. The war on terror sparked impatience with the rule of law - and fostered the belief within our government that the commander-in-chief had the right to ignore it.

    "Torturing Democracy" begins at 9/11 and recounts how the Bush White House and the Pentagon decided to make coercive detention and abusive interrogation the official US policy in the war on terror. In sometimes graphic detail, the documentary describes the experiences of several men who were held in custody, including Shafiq Rasul, Moazzam Begg and Bisher al-Rawi, all of whom eventually were released. Charges never were filed against them and no reason was ever given for their years in custody.

    The documentary traces how tactics meant to train American troops to survive enemy interrogations - the famous SERE program ("Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape") - became the basis for many of the methods employed by the CIA and by interrogators at Guantanamo and in Iraq, including waterboarding (which inflicts on its victims the terror of imminent death), sleep and sensory deprivation, shackling, caging, painful stress positions and sexual humiliation.

    "We have re-created our enemy's methodologies in Guantanamo," Malcolm Nance, former head of the Navy's SERE training program, says in "Torturing Democracy." He adds, "It will hurt us for decades to come. Decades. Our people will all be subjected to these tactics, because we have authorized them for the world now. How it got to Guantanamo is a crime and somebody needs to figure out who did it, how they did it, who authorized them to do it ... Because our servicemen will suffer for years."

    In addition to its depiction of brutality, "Torturing Democracy" also credits the brave few who stood up to those in power and said, "No." In Washington, there were officials of conviction horrified by unfolding events, including Alberto Mora, the Navy's top civilian lawyer, Maj. Gen. Thomas Romig, who served as judge advocate general of the US Army from 2001 to 2005 and Lt. Col. Stuart Couch, a former senior prosecutor with the Office of Military Commissions.

    Much has happened since the film's initial telecast on some public television stations last fall. Once-classified memos from the Bush administration have been released that reveal more details of the harsh techniques used against detainees whose guilt or innocence is still to be decided.

    President Obama has announced he will close Guantanamo by next January, with the specifics to come later in the summer. That was enough to set off hysteria among Democrats and Republicans alike who don't want the remaining 240 detainees on American soil - even in a super-maximum-security prison, the kind already holding hundreds of terrorist suspects. The president also triggered criticism from constitutional and civil liberties lawyers when he suggested that some detainees may be held indefinitely, without due process.

    But in an interview with Radio Free Europe this week, Gen. David Petraeus, the man in charge of the military's Central Command, praised the Guantanamo closing, saying it "sends an important message to the world" and will help advance America's strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    In another revealing and disturbing development, the former chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson, has suggested what is possibly as scandalous a deception as the false case Bush and Cheney made for invading Iraq. Colonel Wilkerson writes that in their zeal to prove a link between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein during the months leading up to the Iraq war, one suspect held in Egypt, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, was water tortured until he falsely told the interrogators what they wanted to hear.

    That phony confession, which Wilkerson says was wrung from a broken man who simply wanted the torture to stop, was then used as evidence in Colin Powell's infamous address to the United Nations shortly before the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Powell says that everything in his speech was vetted by the CIA and that Wilkerson's allegation is only speculation. We'll never know the full story - al-Libi died three weeks ago in a Libyan prison. A suicide.

    Or so they say.

    No wonder so many Americans clamor for a truth commission that will get the facts and put them on the record, just as "Torturing Democracy" has done. Then we can judge for ourselves.

    As the editors of The Christian Century magazine wrote this week, "Convening a truth commission on torture would be embarrassing to the US in the short term, but in the long run it would demonstrate the strength of American democracy and confirm the nation's adherence to the rule of law.... Understandably, [the president] wants to turn the page on torture. But Americans should not turn the page until they know what is written on it."

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    Watch "Torturing Democracy" here.

    Bill Moyers is managing editor and Michael Winship is senior writer of the weekly public affairs program Bill Moyers Journal, which airs Friday nights on PBS. Check local airtimes or comment at The Moyers Blog at www.pbs.org/moyers.

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I hope Obama will watch

I hope Obama will watch this. As a former Vietnam vet and pilot, it is imperative that Obama support the investigation and prosecution of war crimes. If these war crimes are not prosecuted, they will continue by our government and give license to the rest of the world that these are the new standards. Not only do these war crimes act as a recruiting tool for those who oppose our illegal occupation, they also serve to discourage any young man or woman of conscience to become part of the US military which has yet to prosecute senior officers who were in the chain of command for these war crimes. If immoral foreign policy is not enough, certainly a wink and a nod at the war crimes of torture should be should discourage most of conscience.

I watched Bill Moyers

I watched Bill Moyers Journal and found the video "Torturing Democracy" an inditement of the Bush Whitehouse and all those who participated in the torture presidency, which is in violation of our constitution and the values we hold dear as Americans. An investigation must follow and those responsible be held accountable so that never again policies which put our troops in danger of similar treatment or worse, be tolerated. America has not been made safer by such techniques which only serve to recruit future terrorists to put our country and our troops in harms way.

It is important that

It is important that everyone watch this. And watch WLS radio host, mancow, get waterboarded for charity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOStoGd5GZw Then challenge those who insist that the USA does not torture. This cannot be ignored.

Now Bush and Cheney can join

Now Bush and Cheney can join the ones who came before them. Nixon, Reagan, and Bush 1. We've closed our eyes to previous atrocities committed by our elected officials instead of holding them accountable. This makes us all complicit. The Middle Eastern countries hated us long before the current actions. This nation came into being due to similar treatment by the British imperialists against us. We went to war to free ourselves from our oppressors. We shouldn't be so surprised when the oppressed rise up against us.

The three main things that

The three main things that blow my mind about this torture issue are: 1- Doesn't everyone know that under British and American law, a suspect must be considered innocent until proven gulity? How could the public, our representatives and our press possibly have forgotten this bedrock foundation of our legal system, and the REASONS for it? 2- Doesn't everyone know that information extracted under torture must be considered unreliable or false? This is such a no-brainer that the notion of forgetting it (or pretending never to have known) is absolutely unthinkable to me. I hate to think of what else our modern educational system is leaving out. 3- Doesn't everyone know that people simply do not escape from federal maximum-security prisons? How can the American people be so unbelievably clueless as to be manipulated by this childish NIMBY fear?

And the Bush administration

And the Bush administration tortured us, most of us, for eight long years. Imagine four years in a stress position inside a Katrina trailer. Free market advocating scourge. We need to fully own the horror that bears our name and make amends immediately.

Nothing ceases to amaze me

Nothing ceases to amaze me about the previous administration’s justifications of their rationalization of their so-called β€œwar on terror”. Nothing!! What needs to be done from a legal point of view and what really will be done are two separate thoughts. The world needs to pick up the ball so to say, as the current administration has their hands full and rightfully so. So those who took the time to view these videos and were angered to the point of wanting justice to be done, don’t sit idly buy your computer, but take that anger and put it to good use and let your angry be heard.

I watched Bill Moyers'

I watched Bill Moyers' Journal last night. The actions portrayed seemed to me clearly criminal. Also, I was convinced that the top officials (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Tenet) knew and authorized the crimes occuring. Unlike John Yoo. I don't think presidential powers include the power to permit others to act unjustly. If we let this stand, without investigation and prosecution, we are agreeing with John Yoo. In effect Yoo reverses Kennedy's inaugural. Yoo says the rights of man come not from God but from the President of the United States. Obama must not let this stand.

The one problem with Bill

The one problem with Bill Moyers' conclusions is that the very fact all of this has happened demonstrates that American democracy really isn't that strong. I do not believe, not for one moment, that most Americans would have sanctioned torture if they'd actually had the information about what was going on - and the very fact that they didn't have the information documents that America is a democracy in name only.

Torture is pure sadism.

Torture is pure sadism. Forget the institutional rationalizations that torture is necessary to defend anything. It is joy in inflicting pain and wallowing in the delusion of abosolute power. It is degenerate. Throughout history, the arguments attempting to justify torture, whether put forth by regents, popes, or presidents, have thinly veiled the diseased, doomed power structures that embrace cultural cruelty.

It is telling enough that

It is telling enough that NONE of the major network are willing to air the documentary. We are in DEEP trouble. Our Government has been taken over (even now, with Obama) by people who are more interested in their personal goals than those of our Country. As long as this continues there will be no changes at all and things will continue to get worse, not only as far as matters of war but, our economy, the way people are treated here in the US, health care, education, wages, etc... It's all part of the same equation: POWER.

America's shame. Torture is

America's shame. Torture is nothing more than the age-old excuse for the victor to engage in a sadistic cruelty. All this verbiage about national safety is rationalization. As an information gathering tool, torture is bunk and we all know it by now. So did Bush/Cheney. A review of Bush's personality will show a nasty cruel streak and a frustrated low self esteem adolescent. Perfect match for what he did. It is time we grew up as a nation, called a spade a spade and put these miscreants in jail.

Doesn't it strike you as odd

Doesn't it strike you as odd that torture still has defenders in this country? If we were really a "civilized" people this would not even need to be discussed. All our propaganda as the shining city on the hill has been debunked and we are on exhibition as an ordinary member of a very backward planet. Let the defenders of this primitive practice have their noses rubbed in the scenes of the film, I don't think the rest of us need to see it, as we are already repulsed by the very thought of inflicting pain on the living protoplasm we are all part of.

As if the fact that

As if the fact that Bush/Cheney actually endorsed and encouraged interrogators to participate in these horrific episodes were not in itself disgusting enough, now Cheney feels fully justified in continuing his pathetic defense of these heinous acts. No conscience, therefore no guilt, in his part. In fact, his performances this week are more self-congratulatory than anything else. Obama as the Great Black Hope who will restore America's decency? Don't make me laugh. It would appear he's bound and determined to let these animals get away with it. Thus setting a precedent that will allow future Presidents and V-Ps to continue the grand American traditions of torture and genocide, that have been followed almost since the day the country was founded. Noam Chomsky's recent article traces the history of U.S. barbarism back over more than a hundred years. As he rightly points out, there was nothing new or unprecedented in what Bush and Cheney & Co. did. U.S. governments have been doing the very same thing for a long, long time. Obama needs to get his head out of the sand, or his %$#hole, and do the right thing and prosecute them. But that won't happen, because he suffers from the same disease they do – a blind faith that if America does it, especially in the name of National Security, it couldn't possibly be wrong, or criminal. U.S. Exceptionalism - a great cover story for even greater crimes against humanity.

As Elie Wiesel said, "(We)

As Elie Wiesel said, "(We) betray our own (humanity)" by accepting torture. The arguments of former VP Cheney, et als. that "enhanced interrogation techniques" were not torture and therefore not war crimes - that demand the severest of punishment - are morally reprehensible. To "put the past behind us" and "move on to more pressing" problems is just not right. Certainly, health care, energy, environmental degradation, etc. are serious concerns that demand attention. But to ignore, justify, rationalize or sweep under the rug such crimes against humanity as were committed in the name of the American people is almost as great an outrage as the crimes themselves. And, those who do not demand a full investigation and, if appropriate, prosecution of the torturers, their attorney-enablers and, most importantly, their political superiors, are morally complicit in the crimes. Putting torture behind us is not the change that I voted for. It is time to set our tortured democracy on the right path again.

Now the question is what

Now the question is what will we do with the apparently horrific photographs that have not yet been released. The truth should be known and the crimes punished -- but apparently the photos are of actions so unthinkable that they will provoke more intense hatred and possibly endanger our military and provoke attacks on our soil. How do we deal with this terrible moral dilemma which a group of our own leaders has created for us?

All these blowhards on tv

All these blowhards on tv and radio should be requested to be waterboarded to find out if their denials are correct. Don't forget that in addition to Mancow Christopher Hitchens also had the guts to be waterboarded. Twice actually because he could not believe how quick he called uncle the first time and wanted to confirm how fast he gave up. He also seemed to have the more correct way it is done and not the way Mancow did it. They took lots of precautions to be sure no damage was done to him.

After viewing all three

After viewing all three parts of this I now think that we should seriously consider criminal prosecution of those who are responsible for the torture shown. I am ashamed of my country for the first time in my life. I think that the person on the tape who predicts that Americans for a long time in the future will be subjected to similar treatment is correct. I think that regardless of the consequences we should release all of the remaining men in Guantanamo and any similar facilities we operate.

I watched what came out on

I watched what came out on Youtube - it puts things in perspective. I also read the Memo's on ACLU homepage .. To know this took place is unbearable to see it is twice as bad. How could they do this to people. I don't understand it, cannot wrap my mind around this level of barbarianism .. It makes me want to stand outside the white house screaming for a Revolution.

Remember Greece, Iran,

Remember Greece, Iran, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina under Nixon? Remember Guatemala under Ike first and then Reagan? Nicaragua, El Salvador under Reagan also? Iran/Contra? CIA planned military coups? Does the School of the Americas sound familiar? Amnesty International reports on torture on any of those regimes? Who were the trainers? With what money? And George Bush says "We don't torture here'? Which country does he come from then if not the all too conspicuous USA? Finally we got something "made in America" ready to export freer than our markets and easier than democracy. Our real "American touch." Oh,...and I forgot to mention the Congo and Korea! We will never be forgotten, right Adolf?

There are a growing list of

There are a growing list of countries in which the leaders have been brought to trial for there wrongs. Perhaps it is time that the USA, once a self proclaimed colonial tutor of the Philippines, takes a look at how their democracy survived the trial of Estrada. Or the recent trial of Taiwan's former President Chen Shui-bian. America could learn much from these democracies, and prove to the world that its democracy actually has a little backbone.

Paul W and others: Obama is

Paul W and others: Obama is not going to let them get away with it. He is biding his time, giving them the rope to hang themselves. Already, Cheney is taking the bait and stating clearly that he himself is a war criminal. "Methinks he doth protest too much." There is no statute of limitations on these crimes; Obama is keeping his powder dry. The more that is exposed over time, the more this enters the numbed awareness of the general public, the harder the ax will fall.

Several decades ago, I was

Several decades ago, I was attached to the Foreign Service in Africa. I got a speeding ticket which I protested. That led to my arrest and trial even though I had diplomatic immunity. I was placed in prison, the cell had a slit trench at its back and thus the sounds of adjacent cells and rooms would travel through this. I began to hear the whimpering and screams of what at first I assumed were babies crying because they were hungry. Then I realized that these were the screams of people somewhere in the bowels of the prison. These screams went on for a long time. That experience is permanently burned into my memory so I will not be watching Torturing Democracy as it is too close to home. There are a lot of us that have similar experiences and can not, in some detached way, see such a film. But, please do watch it the rest of you to see what this government of ours is capable of and consider that if you are on their idea of the wrong side, you may well wind up hooked to a battery.

I think Obama upon gaining

I think Obama upon gaining the White House found out just how complicit previous administrations were in this very same behavior of torture. He realizes many, not just the Bush administration would be culpable. When he tries to close Gitmo, which everyone but Cheney was all for during the election cycle, suddenly those for it did a 180 and pulled the plug on those plans. They all either led the people down the garden path during the election then spit on it when Obama held to his promise or worse yet they realized some of them would also be held accountable now that the groundswell of accountability is coming from the people. Of course the Republicans are airing propaganda to strike fear into the public arena they sure don't want any of theirs to be indicted. It is a sad testament in our history that so many of the public even considers allowing torture to be discussed in any positive way at all. We can only support Obama's decision by holding our legislators accountable and force them to do the right thing. It is their job.

I am personally so

I am personally so demoralized and disenchanted by how far our democracy has fallen that it is beyond shock and awe. The past administration has been tantamount to a fascistic regime and is attempting to continue to brainwash the American people. Many of our citizens are easily swayed with jingoistic dogma and appeals to religious zealotry and patriotism. Yet these same people can now sabotage the efforts of this brilliant and honorable new president, be impatient with him for not solving all the problems he was left with. When those who were aware criticized Bush/Cheney, we were told we were unpatriotic, un American. Republicans continue to act unAmerican.

America has been torturing

America has been torturing since the whites decimated the native peoples. In light of that history how can you be shocked by this? It seems that most Americans know nothing about America and its values!

Torture is not only a crime;

Torture is not only a crime; it is a mortal sin. "Whatever you do unto the least of these, you do unto me." Jesus said. We got to pray that those torturers and commanders have a change of heart. Otherwise, they're doomed. And that al-Libi detainee, tortured to death, is in a holier place than his killers will be, unless they admit their sin and ask forgiveness-- just as we taxpayers must. But what could be the appropriate penance? Hasn't anybody got a conscience?

If a person believes in

If a person believes in crucifixion as a just punishment, that person needs another think. death is death, torture is torture. I thought that sort of thing was behind humanity. Guess not, the Saudis crucified a criminal this week.

What of the soldiers who

What of the soldiers who carried out this brutal torture? Are they loose in America today, inflicting horrors on their wives, children, and who knows who else? How can we ever begin to heal their psychological wounds if we don't admit collectively that it happened. For the sake of our national morality, we need prosecution and a Truth Commission.

Obama will do nothing. He's

Obama will do nothing. He's reserved the right to torture and he supports other countries doing torture for us. Don't be fooled into thinking he will do anything about this at all. Anyone who thinks he's 'keeping his powder dry', as one poster put it, is deluded.

I viewed this documentary on

I viewed this documentary on PBS and I can't begin to express my feelings about this matter. I realize war is not pretty, POWs aren't treated like royalty, and I realize certain tactics must be allowed for security purposes. However, viewing these individuals who were innocent and later released made me sad. What is more infuriating is the several bills Bush and Cheney wrote to clear themselves and others from prosecution in the U.S. Surely, they understand that none of these bills mean anything to other countries. This documentary should be aired on regular tv along with Independent Lens: Lioness (women in combat who according to military regs aren't supposed to be, yet, they are in the middle of firefights. All documentaries exclude the mention of them when reporting firefights.)