The Missing Piece Meets the Big O
Saturday 31 July 2010
by: William Rivers Pitt, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

(Image: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t; Adapted: Douglas Mappin, Angela Wolf)
I've been trying to wrap my mind around the dispiriting sense of failure that seems to have enveloped the Obama administration on the eve of the November midterms. The right hates him because he won, because he's Black, and because he won. Their utter intransigence has completely upended Obama's knee-jerk instinct for compromise and bipartisanship, making it appear that he's not getting anything done, and so the middle of the electorate feels a deep sense of disappointment exacerbated by unrelentingly bad coverage in the media. The left is up in arms because he hasn't met the lofty goals set after his election, and because he's allowed himself to get rolled by the right and their corporate paymasters on half a dozen occasions, resulting in several half-a-loaf pieces of legislation that look more like giveaways than accomplishments.
But there's a missing piece in here somewhere, and strangely enough, it took a recent Sports Illustrated article to bring the situation into focus for me. The article dealt with the scandal surrounding former USC running back and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush, whose involvement with agents and payoffs during his college career led the NCAA to punish USC severely for his, and their, transgressions. Rather than face the issue head-on and offer mea culpas, USC chose instead to erase the Bush legacy from the annals of their sports history:
As promised and with great flourish, USC officials last week swept Reggie Bush's disgraced Heisman Trophy from the stately foyer of Heritage Hall. On this occasion the university's famed marching band was not called upon to play a dirge, nor was the squatty, stiff-armed statuette carried out by six Trojan students wearing number 5 football jerseys with "619" eye-black patches stuck to their faces, as if to mourn a legacy fallen deeply into shame.
This seems like a missed opportunity because it would have been a sweet photo op, capturing the moment when sport formally completed the transition into its Age of Revisionism.
It's all part of a new paradigm, in which you thumb through the record books with a marker in hand, circle some items as genuine and draw lines through others as clearly tainted. At USC they're actually doing this; the next edition of the Trojans' football media guide will contain at least 100 asterisks and italicized notations, qualifying the performances of the Bush era.
A light went on in my head while reading the words "Age of Revisionism" and "qualifying the performances of the Bush era." For USC, that means Reggie. For the rest of us, those lines can just as easily apply to George W. and his own disgraceful tenure as president. That's the missing piece, and though it should be obvious, we seem to have forgotten how much of a wretched impact his years in the Oval Office had and continue to have on this nation and the world.
Part of the reason we've managed to forget, of course, is that he's been gone for almost two years now. Under normal circumstances, that tends to put the onus on the current president; Obama has been holding the reins with a Democratically-controlled congress on Capitol Hill for eighteen months, and therefore all eyes tend to fall on him. The problem is that no president in American history has done more damage and screwed us worse than George W. Bush did. In the nearly 3,000 days he spent in office, Bush cut the country to ribbons in ways that have never been seen before, and the impact of that era lingers to this day.
The main reason for our forgetfulness, however, can be found on your television and in the pages of your newspaper. The media has completely redacted the impact of the Bush era from their coverage of the Obama administration, a continuing act of deception that I believe is completely deliberate. The entire Bush administration is a lesson in media cowardice and complicity; they rolled over for him for virtually every one of those 3,000 days, and would now like to have us all forget it happened. If as Bush falls in the forest and the media doesn't cover it, did it happen? Certainly, but when the daily grind of the 24-hour news cycle omits the idiot elephant that remains in the room, the narrative of the present becomes skewed and distorted.
There are a dozen examples of this available, but the two best also happen to be the two heaviest millstones currently hanging around Obama's neck: the war in Afghanistan, and the BP oil disaster still unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico.
The recent Wikileaks document dump may not have been a blockbuster on the order of the Pentagon Papers, but it served to underscore how much of a mess the war in Afghanistan is. Pundits on the left and right have taken to call Afghanistan "Obama's war" - RNC chairman Michael Steele went so far as to claim that Obama was the one who got us into it - even though the war had been going on for almost a decade when he took office. Granted, he's been commander-in-chief for a year and a half, and his decision to send more troops puts the outcome in Afghanistan right in his hip pocket. This cannot be disputed, but the media coverage of the Wikileaks documents utterly failed to note a fact of singular importance: the discussion of the war described in those documents is focused on George W. Bush's failed handling of that war. Except in the independent media, the narrative has been "Oooh, these documents show a war going badly, this must be Obama's fault." No mention of Bush, the big missing piece in everything we're dealing with, again.
As for the Gulf, well, you must have heard by now that it is "Obama's Katrina." Beyond the reference to one of the signal debacles of the Bush era, George's name has hardly come up in the coverage of the BP catastrophe...except it was the Bush administration who fully and completely enabled the elements that led to the disaster in the first place, thanks to their cozy relationship with the oil industry and their passion for deregulating everything that moved. The government agency in charge of keeping an eye on offshore drilling operations spent the Bush administration having coke-and-hooker parties on the taxpayer's dime, and why not? They must have been bored out of their minds. After all, how should a regulator spend his time in an administration that had no interest in enforcing any form of regulation at all? Once again, Mr. Bush and his 3,000 days are the missing piece in the narrative.
Mr. Obama's performance to date has not lived up to expectations, to be sure. He simply must do better - and, pssssst, Mr. President, your best move might be to forego this nonsense about compromising with the GOP and just get stuff done through reconciliation, filibuster reform and the ever-handy Executive Order - but the public's collective impression of his performance to date has been thoroughly skewed by the absence in our national discussion of the last guy to occupy the Oval. The media wants you to forget George W. Bush ever happened.
Don't fall for it.

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NO, we're up in arms because
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 14:59 β Vic Anderson (not verified)NO, we're up in arms because Barry SABOTAGED his cynical Rhetorical PROMISES and delivered LESS than any Loaf (save his own, as Idle Class PRECEDENT) DEFORMS to the rest of US (and it's the grifts that keep on giving US --- the shaft; as the economy, environment and BushCObamanible empire continue their wretched COLLAPSE)! But then, he IS the fourth US President George (Chicken, that is!).
Hell y eah, Vic. These folks
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 15:17 β Cheryl (not verified)Hell y eah, Vic. These folks think we're stupid and uninformed and all we ever watch is CNN and maybe a naughty sneak peak at Fauz Nuz.
Great job of turning on your
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 15:18 β cheryl (not verified)Great job of turning on your own, by the way.
Sadly, Obama has brought
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 15:28 β Anonymous (not verified)Sadly, Obama has brought much of this Bush amnesia syndrome on himself, by declaring from the outset that bygones should be bygones. There was no logical reason to give the criminality of the Bush years a pass; indeed Obama had a duty to expose the contemptible behavior that so ravaged our country. Instead, Plouffe was shown the door after election day to be replaced by " pragmatists " who let Obama drink the presidential power Kool Aid. Had Obama pursued a strategy of investigating the criminal actions of the Bush years, the vacuum that Mr. Pitt describes would not exist; instead we would have had a steady drumbeat of exactly why Republicans should never be given the reigns of power. For that I blame Obama; the press would not report a story that does not exist.
Democratically controlled
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 15:34 β Davian (not verified)Democratically controlled Congress?
C'mon William, your insights are usually more astute, but such an attribution is dangerously quaint in these dark times.
We know you know William, this is a corporate controlled Congress in a nominal democracy and Obama is not hapless, he's complicit. The "change" we got is more of Bush's agenda.
And we're just another feckless mark in this marketplace filled with neocon/neoliberal illusioneers.
We know you know this.
WRONG!!!!! Yes Bush shredded
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 15:41 β AnonymousB (not verified)WRONG!!!!! Yes Bush shredded what was left of "the new deal" yes he and his henchmen (actually "W" was the henchman, Cheney was in charge) deregulated and pillaged and warred... yes yes yes.. ugly men inside and out...But!
Obama stole the hope of the left and center. The left and right ideologically have always been here, it is the ability to sway the center that makes the difference and he held that sway.. With his magical oratory, with his beautiful family.. Hope shone in and on him and we all felt it. I cried with my dying 80 year old Mother who was a civil rights era fighter along with my dad 3 years gone now. We lamented his missing of this historic change to an otherwise sinking America... Not so Fast
President Obama began almost immediately stocking his cabinet with bad and tired faces, we all knew the playbook and immediately we the progressive left started to see the crumbling or ours and the center majorities hope. We spoke to it through blogs , through our own oratory and lots of us said..Hold on, give him a chance.
As the drones fly over Pakistan this morning, and the Mountain top removal lumbers on, the Oil thick and treated sinking out of our vision, we now know the sad truth.. sardonically, Angrily... He is "Bush Lite" and not so lite.
The torture Documents was my final straw, never mind the Health care reform left To Max Bauckus, never mind the endless Capitulation to Corporatopia, his Lack of strength when we the people were so behind him was tossed aside.. in favor of a further class gap and a diminished middle class.
How many more foreclosures can we expect this year ? How quickly will we be able to get some sort of health insurance, how long before we stop killing brown babies for fat white oil men..huh Barry?
Should we really sit back and consider how difficult it must be for this guy ? Really... No Way.
If he didn't have the stomach for it he shouldn't have taken the job, but I'm much more street wise than that.. He's one of them and he is re-delivering the middle to the right wing establishment all over, so that our fleeting democracy can move even further to the right side of the spectrum..
We are fully a corporatist fascist state in the making, about 75% there now. Give it another 10 years of climate change deniers, and wall street profiteers.
This man held the golden chalice and he peed in it.
Sorry But he's worse than Bush and Cheney ever were because he used our hope against us.. and that will be his legacy
he isn't black he is of
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 15:42 β Anonymous (not verified)he isn't black he is of mixed race a man of color ,he would be loved if he had brought us the positive changes he implied during his campaign, so far he's just brought pain and disappointment,if there is hate the electorate hate themselves for allowing him to jive his way into office,so now lets all ponder the future by peering into our balls, crystal ball, basketball ,baseball ,if we have some ,not withstanding critical thought pray the gods will take pity on us ,or maybe just install Pelosi as empress
Obama owns Bush. Bush is
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 16:16 β Anonymous (not verified)Obama owns Bush. Bush is part of Obama. You don't get to separate them, Mr. Pitt, sorry.
We haven't forgotten the
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 16:42 β Anonymous (not verified)We haven't forgotten the Bush years or the wreck of the economy and the country that they caused. We're p#ssed because nothing was or is being done about it. It was Obama who wanted the country to forget by stating that he would look forward rather than at the past. Rather than the cleansing purification we needed and would have gotten with investigations, trials, and punishment we got nothing. And the look forward? A continuation of the past. A continuation with no modification of the Patriot act. No closing of the travesty that is Guantanamo. Not only no end to the wars but an expansion (endorsement) of the war in Afghanistan. And as the article itself admits, at best, half loaf legislation.
So no, our impression of Obama hasn't been skewed because we forgot. It is what it is because Mr. Obama has refused to discuss it and worse has refused to do anything about it.
Actually, Obama's poll
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 16:52 β saneleft (not verified)Actually, Obama's poll numbers are better than those of Reagan at the same point in his first term. All things considered, Obama's doing a great job--and the presidential scholars who recently rated him the 15th best president in history realize that. It may be an unpopular view here, but guess what, I don't march lockstep to *your* drummer.
If you can bear an alternative view of the current situation--one that goes further than Mr. Pitt's--read on:
The far left is, frankly, acting in a clueless manner right now. It has become a mirror image of the far right, which expected W to deliver everything it wanted. When he couldn't do that (and thank the stars he couldn't!), WE used their disappointment against them to take back the government. Now, y'all are falling for the same trick in reverse. Don't you realize that a big part of the game--every single election cycle--is souring the other side on its own candidates? Using unrealistic expectations and simple-minded disappointment as weapons? Don't you even realize that much!? I would have thought you would be smarter and have more perspective than your evangelical/tea party-type counterparts--but I certainly don't see it from the comments posted on this site.
You have to have a SPINE to play this game, and you have to be realistic. When, in recent history, have progressives made their greatest gains? Under the FDR & LBJ admins, of course--both deeply compromised environments that involved foreign wars. And here we are again! Yet we are making progress again, with significant improvements to the healthcare system, consumer protections, environmental protections, objective use of science, the nation's international image, equality of minorities, women, and homosexuals, and so on.
And yet y'all simply don't see it because you think it's an all-or-nothing game. You dial out everything good. You don't realize that the system is designed to be built around compromises and that the corporations and the opposition don't simply go away when you win an election.
Instead, you indulge in self-defeating rhetoric that might as well be scripted by Rove & co. and that no doubt is music to the ears of Beck & co.
I constantly see cliches on this site like "Obama is an empty suit." Meanwhile, the right is complaining that Obama is chipping away at the foundations of Reaganism. And guess what? The right is, for once, closer to being right here!
This game, it's not for crybabies. It's for the long term. The opposition is still fighting you every step of the way, and Obama HAS to be focused on the ruthless electoral math of winning next time. It will be much much worse for all of us if he loses. Don't you realize that? Stiffen your spines and get real. Otherwise, the right wing is going to roll over you and reinstate another W admin or worse. And you will not only deserve that--you will have helped it to happen.
Obviously, none of the
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 16:58 β radline9 (not verified)Obviously, none of the commenters here were actually listening to Obamas campaign promises as he made them. Everyone was just so glad to get behind someone who wasn't Bush and was also charismatic and talked of change and hope. I knew before the election that there were going to be a lot of disappointed idealists after Obama actually took the reins and was in office this fair amount of time. I have seen presidents come and go since Ike in 1954. Ike and John Kennedy were the last presidents that had any real power. Obama is doing the best he can and you ought to get behind him because he is the best you are going to get.
Rivers Pitt misses the
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 17:00 β Chip (not verified)Rivers Pitt misses the point. The issue is not Obama, this issue is corporate and finance capitalism waging war on working people.
One of the things they teach you in Marx 101 is "System Not Personality". American academe and media propagate the notion that personalities (Brad Pitt, Barack Obambi... Hillary and Bill) direct the course of affairs. They do not. The influence of a single person on the coure of history is mostly tangential. Even Tolstoy made this point.
Bush and Obama are simply the user interfaces for the system that drives them from behind. Obama tinkers around the edges but accepts fundamentally the same neo-liberal agenda that has driven this country since Nixon and certainly since Reagan.
"American" corporations are literally gutting the country and impoverishing us before our very eyes and under our bellies. It is time to stop yapping about "race" or "personality" or other non-issues and focus on the fundamental socio-economic reversal that needs to take place
AWAKE!
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Sat, 07/31/2010 - 17:02 β chip (not verified)http://wcg-newsandnotes.blogspot.com/2010/07/connecting-with-tar-baby-and.html
Mush minded. We understood
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 17:06 β Anonymous (not verified)Mush minded.
We understood the Bush legacy very well.
It was why we elected Obama.
He's turned out to be an empty suit, and we need to challenge him in 2012 so he can--as he said this a.m. about Charlie--end his career with dignity.
I've said this before--but
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 17:10 β don'twhineorganize (not verified)I've said this before--but elements of the left really did seem to expect Obama to be some kind of Messiah. You are victims of your own faulty expectations. Sigh.
I find it sad that the
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 17:42 β Lawrence Klepinger (not verified)I find it sad that the author continues to blame the right as being racist - but not the left. It is on both sides.
I, too, had high hopes for Obama - even though I did not vote for him - I was willing to give him a chance.
Funny how hatred and bigotry can cloud your emotional reactions, and then write simpleton articles such as this one - and still consider yourself open-minded.
Please remember, if Obama fails, all of America will fail right along with him. Iraq? Afghanistan? Iran??? Pakistan???????
When will the left wake up?
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Obama led the movement to
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 17:53 β scott camil (not verified)Obama led the movement to overlook the bush crimes, he is the one who said he wanted to go forward not look back.
Obama is right where he put himself.
obomber is a compassionless,
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:04 β tioche (not verified)obomber is a compassionless, deadly liar ! He and his fellow war criminals have doomed the fascist amerikan empire to the big collapse !
I'm not surprised. Why are
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:06 β Saje Williams (not verified)I'm not surprised. Why are you?
It's very sad to see the
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:08 β Tom Outland (not verified)It's very sad to see the left falling prey to the Republican strategy of obstructionism.
I suspect some "angry progressives" on this site are actually GOP operatives, spreading dispiriting memes designed to help the Republicans take power again.
The article tells the story
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:13 β John (not verified)The article tells the story the so identified liberal culture refuses to grasp ... the story is found in the word "increment." I have learned that the number one reason for failure in any movement is the inability to accept success in the "increment" of the moment ... getting to the goal takes millions of baby steps ... and let's face it, the original goal is simply that: a dot on the near horizon that may very likely not be where we want to end up after all. Wouldn't it be great indeed if we as humans could accept whatever success we can achieve in the moment, learn from our falling on our faces, and get up again and look to the goal? I do not think this is too much to hope for ...
It seems obvious to me that
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:15 β Tom Outland (not verified)It seems obvious to me that Obama decided not to go after the Bushies (even though he knew they deserved it!) because he felt a protracted legal fight like that would appear "vindictive" to the center, would be used for political gain by the right, and would probably cost him the next election. If that's a correct assessment, then I have to say he was right that it wasn't worth it. What good would it do to punish the right, only to have them come back into power in 2012? Obama is a pragmatist, always has been, and it's why he has been so successful.
I thank "saneline" and
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:19 β HOWARD CHRISTOFERSEN MD (not verified)I thank "saneline" and "redline9" for their sane and honest blogs. It is indeed correct to say "Obama is doing the best he can and you ought to get behind him because he is the best you are going to get." Maybe looking at the US from a distance helps sort out what is happening. My relatives in S. Africa report that the opinion there is that he is doing a good job against great resistance. In the past I have been able to contribute to some 70 or more NPO's and I still get literature from many of them. THEY ARE REJOICING IN THE CHANGE OF THE ATTITUDE OF THIS GOVERNMENT TOWARDS THE MANY GOOD OBJECTIVES WHICH THEY SUPPORT. Are they all wrong?An example which is close to my heart as a physician who has stood helplessly by the side of a woman dying of an anti biotic resistant infection from a "back alley" abortion when a better way of controlling family size was not available. While G.W.'s first action in office was to cancel $34M support for women's clinics overseas, one of Obama's first actions was to nullify the Gag Rule and increase help for women's clinics by $50M. Give President Obama support, concentrate on what he has accomplished against an opposition that blocks his every move and give him a stronger majority in the next Senate and sit back and enjoy the fun.
Don't forget the latest bit
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:21 β A true patriot (not verified)Don't forget the latest bit of lying revisionist history now being perpetuated by the Right-wing Propaganda Machine: namely that the economy began to tank at the end of the Bush Administration due to the feared anticipation the Democrats would win the election and then destroy the country. Yeah, that's right Bubba, it's all Obama's fault.
Bush was the deadly virus
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:22 β Bangg (not verified)Bush was the deadly virus that was killing us. Obama is the removal of that virus... but we're still trying to stop the bleeding, vomiting and diarrhea caused by the Bush virus. Once those are corralled, some reasonable progress can be made.
It is becoming quite clear
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:24 β Phoenix Rising (not verified)It is becoming quite clear that Obama is just another facilitator for the elite corporate and government interests. And it is quite clear the American public is fed up with elite interests in general.
Recently, The Chicago Way of doing business, of which Obama is part and parcel of, was dealt a big blow by the Chicago Teachers Union in their landslide ousting of the former and corrupt union president -- a former union in bed with a corrupt City of Chicago Board of Education that is driven by nepotism, cronyism and outright investor hucksters. (How can an organization that stands to educate be headed by a board of essential bankers, lawyers and a CEO who is a former transit authority manager? Where are the Nel Noddings in all of this?)
This voting out the crooks at the union level sends a strong message to Obama/Duncan's misguided education plan which continues failed NCLB policies put in place by Bush and provides a quality public education to only a few. And the message is "Enough!"
Like the case with Afghanistan, BP, the economic team Obama has in place, and the Obama/Duncan Race to the Top, er, Bottom plan for education, America is beginning to see that we're dealing with the same coin, just the other side of it. And as we awaken, the crooks will go.
Left Wingers Bashing Left
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:40 β JChristian (not verified)Left Wingers Bashing Left Wingers ....
Ironic that many here seem to view the more sharply lefts disappointment with contempt?
He promised change and delivered more of the same.. what is idealistic about expecting someone to be what they say they are, especially at this crossroad? This is simply a black and white issue.. his cabinet, his comities and his policy making has been shockingly close to Bush era trajectories.
If the shoe were on the other foot, the right would have been much more true to their original platform.. they always are. They are openly corporate as it is a corporate dominated economic and social system.. Obama made the claim the he would bring "Change" away from Lobbyists and soft money?
Now we hear the old 'Don't be so idealistic"..????
If we don't have an ideal and philosophy of change that we are willing to fight with and for, then we are doomed to be trampled by a much less considerate right and we might as well give it all to them right now,,, because there will be no change.
I truly believe that Obama has delivered cynicism directly into the hearts of many Americans, and for that he should be ashamed.
I disagree with many of the
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:42 β Anonymous (not verified)I disagree with many of the commentators on this thread that believe Obama is being unfairly punished by those on the left because of their own unrealistic expectations of him.
It is simply untrue that the left expected Obama to accomplish everything they expected of him. What we did expect however is that he would try, and that is what he has failed to do. We didn't necessarily expect that anyone in the Bush regime would be prosecuted and jailed for their violations of the Constitution and their crimes, both high and misdemeanor. What we did expect however was for him to try. Instead one of his very first statements as President was that he chose to look forward not back. We did not necessarily expect that he could end the wars that Bush started illegally. We did however expect him to try. Instead what we get is talk about the "good" war, victory, and expansion in Afghanistan. We did not necessarily expect the passage of single payer health care. But we did expect him to try. What we didn't expect was to be told summarily that single payer was dead. What we didn't expect was passage of a health care bill that demands that we take money out of our already meager paychecks if we even have one to pay premiums with no cost controls to the very companies that have caused the crisis. We knew that the Republicans would fight most if not all of everything we wanted. But all we really wanted was for Obama to try. And if he had we were prepared to work and go to the polls to give him more Democrats that would support what we wanted. But Obama wouldn't even try and that is why he has lost the support of so many of us.
Obama did not servve in the
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:43 β Anonymous (not verified)Obama did not servve in the Army, The Navy, or the Marines. He served himself. His Ivy League Education served him as it did Clinton and the Bush Corporation, the group that gave us Nafta and sold out the working classes. Barry is walking in the same trail as his predecessors.
We are in a major depression, only the established order and Barry would love to call it a Recession, but, due the the nujmbers of unemployed it is a major depression and Obama has bought into it.
The question is what do you
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:43 β Midwest Tom (not verified)The question is what do you want? Equal opportunity, or Equal Outcome? All socialist countries strive for equal outcome, and fall far behind those offering Equal Opportunity. Take your lick.
I worked hard for Obama, but
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:44 β John McAlpin (not verified)I worked hard for Obama, but won't again. Oh, I'll probably vote for him, since I can well imagine the class of disgust the GOP will throw up at us.
But with his very first appointment, Ram Emmanuel, it was made clear that although Obama knows what is wrong, he is not going to do anything about it. And with his subsequent appointments, that view was ratified.
Now he has put up Kagan for the Supreme Court. And though I looked carefully, all I could see that qualifies her for the job is that she is from the same moldy mold as those other objectionable types.
An example of Obama's sell-out is the health INSURANCE package. He told us his health CARE plan would be developed in the open where all could see, and each provision questioned. Not so.
And I can't see how HIS foreign policy is substantially different from the previous disaster.
There has always been differences between a candidate's promises and what he delivered when elected, but Obama has given us an exaggerated example of that tendency.He promised such CHANGE.
Definitely agreed that Obama
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:46 β Tom Outland (not verified)Definitely agreed that Obama is the best we are likely to see in our lifetimes. And we can't lose sight of what it means to have elected a man partially of African descent prez. That's progress in a big way. When Obama was born, Civil Rights hadn't even been passed, and it was illegal for "blacks" and "whites" to marry in some states. Things like this show that we are winning over time.
That doesn't mean we have to "settle" for anything. We keep fighting for progressive reforms and an end to foreign wars. We keep on Obama & his admin. But we do it knowing that in 2012 there are only two real options: Obama or his GOP opponent. (Sure, you can throw your vote away--but that just helps the GOP.)
I know who I'm supporting; do you?
Obama's power has to come
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 18:54 β Anonymous (not verified)Obama's power has to come from us, the people. So if you want Obama to implement his program support him in public, denounce the Zionist controlled commercial press that keeps demonizing him because he does not bombard Iran.
Geithner, Vilsack, Michael
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:05 β JadeQueen (not verified)Geithner, Vilsack, Michael Taylor, and now a general who says he loves to kill. At least the trend is more patently obvious: bleeding health and resources from the homeland while words pretend we are secure. Maybe the present POTUS would have gone on the path of Abraham, Martin, and John if he had refused to allow the siphoning of resources in the way he has. It is unrealistic to expect anyone who gets to that position to choose martyrdom. After the elected individual's removal, the replacement would do the bidding, who better to know that than the incumbent. It is not about ascribed characteristics or party labels or pre-election promises. It's about force, brute force.
When did the word 'balance'
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:10 β Dave (not verified)When did the word 'balance' lose any meaning to liberals? When did the liberal movement become just as uncompromisingly stupid as the conservative movement? Both liberalism and conservatism seems to think that reality is SO simple. The enemy is corporations and capitalism! The enemy is the government. How can so many people who I consider smart who read truthout be so naive about reality! 'Corporations' have done things like make drugs which cure you and your children, which allow you to travel across the country in cars and planes (although yes, they use too much gas). In short, many of the achievements of business are why we live in a world with substantial advancements compared to the world 100 eyars ago. I am a doctor, and I see every day the wonder drugs which save lives. You think those could have been developed without someone thinking that they will make some money on the drugs. That is the reality of human nature. Why can't anyone on this list realize that the middle road is usually the correct road, and the extreme road misguided. Obama is being brought down both by consevative extremists and even by liberal extremists, upset that he is not the ultra-liberal they hoped for. Do I wish that Obama was able to combat the conservative agenda more? Of course I do. But to portray Obama, a president who has an electorate with people as crazy as the 'tea party', as somehow a failure because he can't just dominate the substantial conservative movement, is simply silly. This country isn't being brought down by either consevatism or by liberalism (though I think conservatism is far more damaging). It is being brought down because most people can't seem to see reality as anything but some black and white battle between good and bad. Guess what. It isn't. Support what you believe in, but never delude yourself into thinking your way is the way of absolute truth, and everyone elses are evil. Because, liberals, when you do this, you simply become your enemy (conservatives).
How many times do we have to
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:11 β dixieluke (not verified)How many times do we have to remind the President that he would have been better served to listen to the people who bought into his hope-and-change message instead of kowtowing to the Blue Dogs, Boehner and instead of being paralyzed with fear of Glenn Beck? It seems that there have been two years of the-President-can-be-persuaded-we-just-have-to-try-harder-to-push-him pleas such as the one by Mr. Pitts. Time after time, the President has snubbed his nose at us because Rahm Emanuel says, "where are they going to go?"
I have to agree with Anonymous B's posting of "WRONG!!!! Yes Bush Shredded..." Are we to keep excusing this President because he isn't as horrible as Bush--especially when Bush was indeed the worst President ever? Bush isn't much of a basis for comparison. Are we to continue our pleas for the President to hear his base and that of the independents who voted for him? What do we have to do the get his ear? "This is the best you are going to get, so suck it up and stop complaining," is not what we worked so hard and raised so much money to get.
If he doesn't mind being a one-term President, then why doesn't President Obama experiment and actually do what he was elected to do. Granted he's accomplished a few changes, but all bills regarding health care and finance reform have been watered down, and many Democrats who tried to pass substantive legislation complain that they have had limited and lame support from the White House in pushing these bills through.
And, oh, by the way, whatever happened to the ending-tax-breaks-for-companies-that-ship-jobs-overseas promise? Am I the only one who remembers this promise?
The German people were
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:23 β Dave W. (not verified)The German people were disgruntled, on both left and right, once upon a time. History has given us a pretty good lesson about the nature of the outcome. WE are headed in that direction, make no mistake about it. Those posters depicting Obama as Hitler will not be needed soon. We'll have the equivalent of the real thing. Sinclair Lewis wrote, "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." The only thing he left out is the corporate logo that will be emblazoned across the backs of all our "independent thinking" politicians, bureaucrats, judges, etc. ALL U.S. Presidents, I believe, take an oath separate from the one we all see on TV. That oath is to forgive all previous Presidents misdeeds and to expand and maintain American Empire. Obama, obviously an improvement over his predecessor, took that oath and evidently takes it seriously.
Get it right, or get
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:24 β Realist (not verified)Get it right, or get lost!
The only missing piece regarding the Obama administration is their suffering the consequences for failing to deal with the issues facing Main Street American due to being too closely connected to the trifling travails of Wall Street Greed. That consequence is coming this November.
This consequence cannot be placed at the feet of liberals and progressives, for there is nothing the Republicans can say that would win our support, except that they were resigning en masse. Instead, the blame must be placed at the feet of Obama and the DLC Democrats infesting his administration for breaking faith with the swing voters who bought into Obama's Blue Sky Pie recipe over John McCain's. There has to be SOME delivery on promises made, yet Obama delivered NOTHING.
Because the US is ensnared in the two-faced one-party corporatist plebiscite, when things are not going well with one of the false faces, we are only allowed to register our disapproval by allowing the other false face to assume the lead position. This is where most of the middle is going to go, whether or not progressives and liberals support other options. There aren't enough of us (thanks to Ronald Reagan and FOX) to offset the fickle middle and their control of the outcome. They were the voters Obama lost, not liberals and progressives. They were the ones thrown away in the name of bipartisanship (read: surrender to Republican "ideals").
Obama is a replay of JFK. A
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:34 β b. traven (not verified)Obama is a replay of JFK. A well spoken, handsome, well educated, con man. JFK used that "charisma to charm the left while he escalated us to defeat in Vietnam. Johnso got the rebellion. One historian described JFK as lying by the use of "candor".
Obama just lies. Many of the comments below are very accurate. Obama came into power and immediatly showed his stripes as a Clinton centrist in spades. (no pun intended) . His appointments? Gates, war hawk; Summers , Rubins guy; Geithner, Wall streets guy; Salazar, Napoitani, etc all cut from the same cloth. No indictments against any Bush criminals. Continuation and intensification of unconstitional actions taken by Bush. Obama is a greater danger to our democratic rule of law because his chram and has up to now nuetered the opposition which is the base of the Democratic party.
I see, O lost his sparkle.
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:34 β Anonymous (not verified)I see, O lost his sparkle. For that to happen, then, we have to realize - Not if, not maybe, not but. We need to admit, he was threatened in some way. We have seen this in every Pres, every Pres I have noticed a change in him, immediately after getting into office. One example is Gore - why was he not able to work on the environment while he was IN office. That was noticeable and why did he back down so easily, not wanting to fight the false election? And Carter, that was obvious. So, O, I saw it in his Inaugural Speech, immediately as a cry for help, right in the beginning. He read that quote from Thomas Paine:
"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our Founding Fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. And so to all other peoples and governments who are watching today, from the grandest capitals to the small village where my father was born: know that America is a friend of each nation and every man, woman, and child who seeks a future of peace and dignity, and that we are ready to lead once more."
Now we know, O expects us to speak, for him to help us. That is how I have read O from that day and have applied everyday to our troubles created by others in this world. Our duty is to see the truth. Yes, he told us then, he was under attack.
http://www.tompainesghost.com/2009/01/thomas-paine-quoted-in-obamas.html
It is totally unfair to say
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:38 β Karen LaMont (not verified)It is totally unfair to say Obama is not trying.
It was Joe Lieberman who blocked a single-payer option. The votes in the Senate simply weren't there. That's not Obama's fault.
And Obama tried to close Guantanamo, but the Senate voted 90-6 not to fund the closure, even though there were 59 Dems! Again, you cannot blame Obama.
Still, Obama has succeeded in a variety of ways, particularly when he hasn't had to depend on Congress. He overturned the Global Gag rule. He funded stem cell research. He appointed two women to the old-boys-club Supreme Court. He signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Those things clearly show where his heart is, despite all the obstructionism, not just from the GOP, but from his own party. All of these things reverse where we were under George W. Bush.
I think it is good to have this conversation, which has exposed a rift among progressives, even though we all basically want the same things. Personally, I'd like to see Obama do even better, but I am definitely on his side and very excited still about the opportunity we have with him as our president. When you contemplate the alternatives, I think you'll see what I mean.
Who gave BP a "categorical
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:53 β Anonymous (not verified)Who gave BP a "categorical exclusion" to go ahead and drill at the Deepwater Horizon rig despite a court order to stop because of inspection problems--just weeks before the disaster? Salazar. Who appointed Salazar despite cries that Salazar was an oil whore? Obama. I voted for Obama, I gave him money and I despise Bush. But this IS Obama's Katrina and he has no one to blame but himself.
"it is totally unfair to say
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 20:06 β Anonymous (not verified)"it is totally unfair to say Obama is not trying.
It was Joe Lieberman who blocked a single-payer option. The votes in the Senate simply weren't there. That's not Obama's fault."
Really? Obama used his bipartisan bystander act to get exactly what he wanted by MEANS of Holy Joe Lieberman, for whom he campaigned!
No excuses for the empty suit!
Forgive me if I missed
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 20:19 β Duncan (not verified)Forgive me if I missed something.
Did someone put a gun to Mr. Obamma's head and force him to fill his cabinet with Clinton retreads?
Did someone put a gun to his head and force him to escalate the war in Afghanistan?
Did someone put a gun to his head and force him to go after the Wikileak whistle-blowers instead of those who obviously committed war crimes, or publicly state that these wars are resulting in too much civilian casualty?
My guess is that the answer to these questions is "yes". All governments have always had as their main purpose protecting the property of the ruling class from the working class.
Obamma is no different. If he was he would end up like JFK or MLK.
Unfortunately it is still up to us, and this can not be solved within our political process. We can not vote these people out when we only get to choose between more of the same, and while we are being dumbed-down by the corporate-industrial-military-media complex.
Yes GW did an immence amount of damage. And he should be behind bars. The fact that Obamma refuses to allow investigations into the criminal activities of those in GW's administration should have set us straight 18 months ago.
Obama is guilty of
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 20:39 β EHinCA (not verified)Obama is guilty of "self-inflicting" wounds, to himself and millions who supported him. However, it is THE SYSTEM that rules. He has made some lousy choices as chief staff / advisors. Yes, the SYSTEM of government was built for incrementalism, and yes, the Republicans are just an awful bunch to deal with - lying is their stock in trade, and yes, it was GWBush and the Republicans who put the pedal to the metal in terms of America's current downward spiral. Yes, Obama should have laid it very clearly for al to see and understand, and for all of us to learn lessons of history - the Bush/Cheney regime was the worst in history and did more to sell OUR government to the Fossil fuel industry and every other major corporate interest group in existence than any other President.
However, let's get real now - we have two massive beasts chasing us down and neither is mentioned in these threads. They defy incrementalism and demand a great sense of urgency. If their demands are not met, our nation and world will suffer catastrophic consequences for many generations to come - yes, climate change and peak oil.
We have now permitted Obama and Reid to bow out due to the lies and toxicity told by the fossil fuel industry, due to the extraordinary cowardice of our Senate (Dems included), we have allowed corporate America to purchase nearly every member of
Congress (not all).
Peak oil, according to many experts is already with us; others say it
s immanent - 2013, 2014 is best case. We are so utterly unprepared for a different way of life, with oil over $2-300 per barrel, with shortages of oil and all that goes with it - food production and distribution, transportation, you name it. The oil companies have foisted the most egregious fantasy on the American people than in all of history. These same folks are bringing us the theory of HOAX and denial when it comes to climate change.
Will we wake up soon and begin to shine a light on this enormous transformational changes or chose to remain asleep at the (SUV) wheel? Will Obama begin telling the truth to America and the world about who really controls our government, who holds the keys to the treasury, who is killing our children's future.
Pres. Obama - the most important thing you can do is to tell the truth, act with a high level of transparency, and kick some butt when necessary. The Rs will never be with you - perhaps only as your pall-bearers. EH
Incremental change? Some
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 20:48 β K.G. Smith (not verified)Incremental change?
Some posters have proposed that Obama can only accomplish change in small increments--baby steps. This is an interesting proposition, but in order to undo one quarter of the damage done by G.W. Bush, the 22nd Amendment would have to be repealed. I think about 4 terms should undo about 2 years damage done by Bush. We are remembering the damage done during the Bush years, right?
It's amazing that Bush was able to accomplish so much damage in just 8 years. He wasn't so incompetent after all, I guess.
Some of us on the left are
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 20:50 β Paul G. Bens Jr (not verified)Some of us on the left are disappointed not because we *don't* remember the Bush year, but because we *do* remember them...eight years of slamming legislation through, of "damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead" mentality. That admin crammed some of the worst legislation imaginable through congress *without* a majority a lot of the time. And god bless President Obama, he wanted to try and play nice and try for bi-partisanship, but there's a point at which you go "OK, they don't wanna play that way" and start slamming stuff through. Just like Bush did.
In short, we want our President to have the balls to push through what he knows is right despite the fact that his opponents are obstructionists.
While, yes, the media and country does suffer from revisionist Bush history, not all on the left who are disappointed in the president are disappointed because we don't remember Bush. It's because as horrible of those years were, Bush pushed stuff through. President Obama should learn to do the same instead of knee-jerk reacting to the extreme right media pundits as the administration clearly did during the Sherrod debacle.
Don't fall for forgetting
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 21:32 β S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Don't fall for forgetting Clinton ever happened, either, Pitt, et alii; and stop believing the LIE(S) that Clinton was one of the best things to happen to this country. Yes, it was a "DEMOCRAT", a "second-son" of the Bush family, literally, who started the deregulation, and in a MAJOR way, by helping repeal the Glass-Steagall Act. And this, in turn, led to what "Bush, Jr." did, to the further deregulation, to not enforcing laws, to not holding people accountable, and to further, and intentionally, deconstructing our country and the Constitution upon which it stands (or is supposed to, at least).
And now Obama is continuing the nefariously and insidiously evil legacy of BOTH Clinton AND Bush. Sure, band-aids and apparent "corrections" are being put on matters; so-called "re-regulation" and "health care for all", etc.; but it's ALL just mostly for show, more smoke and mirrors, and bones being thrown the People to appease them, get them to mostly shut-up, and keep them from revolting and truly taking this country back. Really, "Poppy Bush", "al-CIA-duh", the NSA, and the national "security" state have been President, through Clinton, Bush, Jr. and Obama, etc., since at least 1988, and many would say since 1984 or 1963.
So what is this article but more delusional fluff, "lipstick on a pig" (or, more aptly in this case, "lipstick on a donkey (or an ass)", "give ('Obomber' and/or the 'Democrats') a chance", false hope mumbo-jumbo, and blame it all on the "RepugnantCONS", being perpetrated by a dyed-in-the-wool, refuses-to-face-that-the-"two-party"-system-is-really-a-one-party-system, refuses-to-face-that-both-the-left-and-right-are-COMPLETELY-irredeemable, refuses-to-face-that-neolib-corporate-fascism-totally-controls-the-U.S.-now, entirely-neolib-deceived "DemorepugnantCON" in William Rivers Pitt.
It is getting increasingly disturbing that TruthOut is "printing" more and more of this fluff like Pitt's, and downright government propaganda of others, to keep us asleep, or to put us even more to sleep.
It is a completely "bipartisan", really one-party, effort to destroy our country. Get that straight, people.
Exactly....the trick is to
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 22:09 β Anonymous (not verified)Exactly....the trick is to marry the current GOP incumbents right to Bush.....he may be gone but they're not. They're running for re-election. They're the ones confounding and grid-locking Obama....they're the ones who empowered Bush every step of the way...though the media is certainly guilty of not telling the true story....they wrote it.
A lot of those Republicans are gone...too many remain....Mr Whoremaster family values hypocrite GOP US Senator David Vitter for example....should be gone in November....by every measure....the confessed criminal lying adulterer who btw voted to convict Bill Clinton...
The media insists he is a good bet to retain his Louisiana Senate seat for the tea-baggers....
...how can such things be?
CORRECTION(S) AND/OR
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 22:13 β S. Wolf Britain (not verified)CORRECTION(S) AND/OR ADDITION(S) [in capital letters]:
...So what is this article but more delusional fluff, "lipstick on a pig" (or, more aptly in this case, "lipstick on a donkey (or an ass)", "give ('Obomber' and/or the 'Democrats') a chance", false hope mumbo-jumbo, and blame it all on the "RepugnantCONS", being perpetrated by a dyed-in-the-wool, refuses-to-face-that-the-"two-party"-system-is-really-a-one-party-system, refuses-to-face-that-both-the-left-and-right-are-COMPLETELY-irredeemable, refuses-to-face-that-neolib-corporate-fascism-totally-controls-the-U.S.-now, entirely-neolib-AND-FALSE-LEFT-RIGHT-PARADIGM-deceived "DemorepugnantCON" in William Rivers Pitt...
"by MEANS of Holy Joe
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 22:43 β Anonymous (not verified)"by MEANS of Holy Joe Lieberman, for whom he campaigned!"
Actually, Obama shifted his support to Ned Lamont before the 2006 election:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/26/AR2006102601187.html
And in case you can't recall recent history, Lieberman endorsed and actively campaigned for McCain/Palin.
Lieberman is absolutely no friend of Barack Obama.
But don't let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories.
Pitt thinks Obama is a
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 22:51 β Bob Kismet (not verified)Pitt thinks Obama is a progressive. He is not and never was, don't blame the Republicans for the fact that he fooled all of you into voting for him. (I'm Canadian so don't go thinking that since I didn't vote for him I'm a Republican or something). Obama has a majority in both houses, and the presidency, if he isn't doing that change stuff you could believe in... IT"S BECAUSE HE NEVER INTENDED TO. Please refer to him as Bush III from now on. Thanks. P.S. your country is bankrupt and cannot afford pointless wars so please stop them.
Excellent post by "Dave" at
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 22:58 β Anonymous (not verified)Excellent post by "Dave" at 19:10.
The media is not responsible
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 23:16 β Brandon Kasir (not verified)The media is not responsible for MonsantObama's lack popularity or credibility. Obama negative marks come not from him "failing" but from him deliberately deceiving us. He is more of the same. He is an intelligent, eloquent version of what we've had since Regan. He's a dark Clinton, minus the overt sexuality. Some people simply refuse to admit that they were duped. I was duped, as was everyone desperately clinging to the Obama brand of hope. I am not trying to hear any "poor Obama" stories, sorry.
A good number of
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 23:18 β Anonymous (not verified)A good number of conservatives and Republicans saw the end of their gravy train coming and jumped ship [somewhat like Arianna Huffington] to re-brand themselves less as "Democrats" than as 'progressives' [whose exact meaning seems rather blurry]. From that position, they have then claimed the moral high ground over Obama, who has delivered on a great many things --HCR, Financial Regulatory Reform, among many other things {listing below] despite the solid wall of Republican obstruction.
Why should intelligent Democrats listen to the 'progressives' who are now spending their time arguing over what that term means [see Open Left] or whether Obama 'is one' or 'isn't one.' And once the most radical of these progressives, Jane Hamscher, teamed up with Grover Norquist to demand the firing of Rahm Emanuel and abetted the destructive rhetoric around the groundbreaking HCR law, I could see their game clearly.
He's delivered plenty and as this article shows, there has been virtual silence on his achievements. Every headline has a caveat [NYT this morning; Obama claims Detroit bailout worked; economy still sluggish...] as if there were no history or background.
At any rate, this essay is important reading.
List of actually 'progressive' laws passed under Obama:
January 29: Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
February 4: Childrenβs Health Insurance Reauthorization Act
February 11: DTV Delay Act
February 17: American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
March 30: Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009
April 21: Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
May 20: Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act
May 20: Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009
May 22: Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act of 2009
June 22: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
August 6: Cash For Clunkers Extension Act
October 22: Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
October 28: Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act
October 30: Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act
November 6: Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009
2010
March 4: Travel Promotion Act
March 18: Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (HIRE Act)
March 23: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
March 30: Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010
May 5: Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010
July 14: Financial Regulatory Reform
Obama is the problem. Not
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 23:47 β lame lame lame (not verified)Obama is the problem. Not the Dumbya.
Obama began by choosing Rick Warren, a right wing "minister" to pray at his inauguration. Warren actively worked in support of Prop8 in California and in support of an African nation's move to give the death penalty to gay people.
Obama's Lincoln complex about compromise then went downhill from there.
Obama is an orator but a very weak and very corporate and militarist president.
He engaged health insurance companies before moving his lame proposal for health care reform forward. He hired the foxes from Goldman Saks and the NY Fed to bail out the banks, but not the ordinary people. He chose to expand the war in Afghanistan.
Obama desevres all the grief he is getting.
And William Rivers Pitt, well, shame on you for such a lame analysis.
Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:38 β
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 00:18 β Anonymous (not verified)Sat, 07/31/2010 - 19:38 β Karen LaMont
"It is totally unfair to say Obama is not trying.
It was Joe Lieberman who blocked a single-payer option. The votes in the Senate simply weren't there. That's not Obama's fault."
And exactly how is it unfair? Did Obama go on TV and use the bully pulpit to tell the American people that Joe Lieberman was blocking single payer health care to put pressure on Lieberman? No he didn't. So how did he try?
"And Obama tried to close Guantanamo, but the Senate voted 90-6 not to fund the closure, even though there were 59 Dems! Again, you cannot blame Obama."
I never said Obama didn't try to close Guantanamo. But again, did Obama go to the public and tell them the Senate was blocking the closing of Guantanamo by refusing to fund it? No he didn't. The real fact is that Obama wasn't actually trying to close Guantanamo per se. He wanted to open a closed Federal penitentiary here in the U.S. and transfer the prisoners to the new facility. The transfer might have restored some of the prisoners rights under U.S. law because they would have been on U.S. soil which would have been a good thing but again Obama didn't come to the public with what he was trying to do so how did he try?
One of the most powerful weapons in a President's arsenal is the bully pulpit where he goes directly to the public when he is being thwarted by the Congress. Especially when he knows that the public supports what he is trying to do.
My statement stands. In my opinion Obama hasn't tried.
Gore Vidal said it all, "The
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 00:20 β Anonymous (not verified)Gore Vidal said it all, "The United States of Amnesia".
"I never said Obama didn't
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 00:44 β Anonymous (not verified)"I never said Obama didn't try to close Guantanamo. . . . In my opinion Obama hasn't tried." (Anon. at 00:18)
Bit of a contradiction there.
Also, use of the "bully pulpit" does not mean he can automatically change votes in the Senate when they aren't there. That could backfire and make him look weak.
Obama is doing tons of things (see Anon. 23:18). Some of you are clearly determined to give him zero credit, no matter what. You're either willfully blind or Republicans. It hardly matters; the effect is the same.
Democrats are the same as
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 00:54 β Anonymous (not verified)Democrats are the same as Republicans!
Obama is the same as W!
The NYT is the same as the WSJ!
Jon Stewart is the same as Glenn Beck!
Rachel Maddow is the same as Ann Coulter!
Truthout is the same as the Drudge Report!
The Sun is the same as the Moon!
Ain't ideology great?
I started by voting (1968)
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 00:57 β Mike Strong (not verified)I started by voting (1968) for whomever I thought was best, regardless of party. I thought straight party ticket voting was wrong. I kept voting that way until George Bush.
Bush, in 2000, and the Supreme Court convinced me I had to vote for Democrats, no matter what, and no matter who, or we stood no chance of getting anything for the people (you know, us!).
In 2008 I thought Cynthia McKinney was the best person but had no chance of winning. Still believing that any vote not for a Dem was a vote for a Repub, I voted for Obama. He has turned out far, far worse than I would have imagined. A traitor in a companion's garb. A sell out from day one. Extending the Bush programs, only worse, because there is still some wool over our eyes about which side he is on.
So 40+ years after I started voting I learned that once again I should just vote for my preference, regardless of chances of winning or worry about throwing it to the GOP, ala Ralph Nader in 2000.
Basically, if my vote is going to be wasted, I want it wasted on my real choice.
Rick Warren? Who cares? How
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 01:07 β Anonymous (not verified)Rick Warren? Who cares? How is this an issue? What matters are Obama's actual policies. On stem cell research to homosexuality he is in a totally different place than right-wing evangelicals.
Of course Obama engaged health insurance companies. They are stakeholders. What planet is this coming from?
Afghanistan? He told us what he was planning on the campaign trail--no surprises there. War is awful, but should we just let the Taliban go back to harboring terrorist camps, murdering homosexuals, suppressing women, and driving a nation back into the Dark Ages? Don't pretend if we just up and left that it would be some great triumph for humanity; it wouldn't.
As for William Rivers Pitt, he's an indispensable voice--and has clearly penned another stimulating piece.
We've all seen the discourse
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 01:20 β Anonymous (not verified)We've all seen the discourse in American politics and society sink to its lowest in decades. And it's heading toward its worst since the Civil War.
If Obama were running over the top of the irrational right the way so many say he should, there would be blood getting spilled.
Obama hasn't accomplished much, and what he has has been watered down, but holding the nation together through the lies (death panels, FEMA detention camps, etc just to name a few) and the rising up of the ignorant rightwing pawns is a significant accomplishment.
The angry left didn't want
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 01:30 β Anonymous (not verified)The angry left didn't want Obama, they wanted a liberal version of Bush's cowboy show to run roughshod all over the nation for another 8 years.
Bush made policy mistakes, and even crimes, but the biggest sin of Bush was the divisive way that the government was run. 8 more years of that would have been the last nails in the US coffin.
Now people are angry and calling names because Obama won't be their leftwing cowboy.
President Obama's naive
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 01:37 β Francis Nakamoto (not verified)President Obama's naive decision to ignore the malfeasance and incompetence of the Bush-Cheney administration, much less it's criminality that deserved at the least investigation, has come back to roost on his head. Had he followed the law and his constitutional obligation to prosecute criminal behavior where it was suspected--and there was more than mere suspicion that the former President lied, misled and violated the law--the focus and blame for the problems with our economy, job loss, ecological disasters and numerous other debacles rooted in the Bush Administration, would have fallen where it should have, not on his weary shoulders. Yes, much of his problems and perceived weaknesses are of his own creation. He lacks the backbone and toughness we were all hoping he would demonstrate when he promised us change we could believe in. It's not too late with the dwindling support in the Congress for Obama and Majority Leader Reid to start taking aggressive and bold actions, and damn the compromises that have reaped only defeat and weak legislation. At least the voters will know which party is denying America the change it voted Obama in to make.
For another view on all
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 01:46 β Anonymous (not verified)For another view on all this, read Frank Rich's essay "Why has he fallen short?" at http://www.nybooks.com/
Lots of comments worth
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 02:03 β Nathaniel (not verified)Lots of comments worth reading, an instructive back-and-forth. I think Bush, for all his damage, is sort of history now. And what Obama said, which indeed was not particularly progressive, doesn't matter any more either. On many issues, Obama has done well, but the problem, to me, is the really big, planet-threatening issues: he has not even tried to live up to the Nobel Peace Prize, has escalated killing in Iraq and Pakistan, seems unable to stave off an impending Israeli (thus American) attack on Iran, has not dealt with job losses and foreclosures successfully, and seems stalled on climate change. He seems to be figuring out how to be his own person, and before that he needs to figure out who that person is. But we don't have time for that! What will probably save the Democrats on November 2 is that the Republicans don't seem to have any leadership that knows what is going on and what to do about it either. And also, some Dem candidates are genuinely progressive, and can at least go into the election with honor.
Obama's campaign sent out
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 02:21 β JM (not verified)Obama's campaign sent out two messages on two different levels of communication. First, his oratory skills communicated that he was tough and strong and one-sided. But then, at the same time, he attacked Congressional polarizers, those who didn't "reach across aisles" enough.
Reaching across aisles was nothing original in political rhetoric. Basically just meant that what was coming down the road was another conservative administration.
Same with health care as an issue. 65% of the public supports single payer, and his campaign gave people the impression that he was a single payer supporter, all the while, talking about something else, but having people convinced this was where he was really at.
The biggest crash for me, in this, is a Congress that gave us this piece of merde legislation when they have the power to open up Medicare to the country overnight. With the economy as it is (which obviously isn't Obama's fault), the CEOs being bailed out with their bonuses, and Democrats and Republicans, without blinking an eye, passing more of their obscene military budgets, and letting people go to food banks before they *bother* extending unemployment benefits.
Anthony Weiner showed the kind of aggression they should have, if they're doing their jobs the way they should.
We have an election in my community with 39 names for 10 positions, some running unopposed, and one position with no one running, just write-in. Out of all those names, I know of two that are progressives not taking dirty money, supporting campaign finance reform, and opening up Medicare to the nation. One, in fact, has a record of involvement in that issue.
I am really tired of supporting Democrats who support endless war, don't put Republicans in their place on Medicare and social security, and don't do anything of note on jobs for Americans.
My family is not any better off for having supported them, and I think we may even be worse off for continuing to do so.
I will support the two Democrat newcomers. But frankly, I'm turning in a long, blank ballot otherwise. Consider it my statement to the Democrats that this is a vote they missed because they're not working hard enough.
The real problem is that the
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 02:32 β Gryptight Thinne (not verified)The real problem is that the U.S. Government is a criminal enterprise that lies, cheats, steals, racketeers, murders, kidnaps, and tortures anyone who gets in its way. Most governments are similar, but the U.S. Government is the rogue elephant rampaging around the world leaving a trail of destruction wherever is goes. The path that the U.S.A. travels is wholly unsustainable. Eventually, the nation will burn out once it has consumed all available resources. Cancer and the U.S.A. have much in common.
In fact, my long time
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 02:34 β JM (not verified)In fact, my long time Democrat Congressional representative -- Rick Larsen -- who I voted for in the past - just *supported* the president by supporting another 55 billion dollars for that toilet bowl known as Halliburton. While a trillion dollars goes unaccounted for.
It took him a year to write back to me about health care. (He voted for the health bill and didn't support single payer. Who knows what he thought about the public option. He read the bill, that we were told.)
I am supporting Larry Kalb instead. I know he is a single payer supporter and an ordinary person, not a stuck-up Democrat who's been in office too long.
As for my senator, Patty Murray, who's supposed to be so great, and who I've voted for enthusiastically before, it's said that she derailed an effort at campaign finance reform and is taking more special interest money than any other candidate. She told - not even single payer supporters -- but public option supporters -- to can it - they were unrealistic -- it just didn't have the votes. Not to mention that she has developed a reputation for not responding to citizens (who can't contribute money and over 200.) with their concerns. Including a veteran who said they ignored him, and a mom whose son was wrongfully denied a state scholarship because of their corruption through Olympia. Same goes to Christianne Gregoire.
There is a Bob Burr running. (Who moved to the community 15 years ago.) I may not only vote for Bob Burr -- but - we have hand-delivered paper ballots where you can cross out a name -- so I may cross out Patty's name, as well -- so the Democrats (if they even notice) -- can know that I am a Democrat who they have ignored.
One thing I am also sick of tired of reading on their candidate statements in the first paragraph is how many generations their families have lived in Washington State. Yes, I know. It is very, very hard for people like us to get work from people like you in our communities. So, I'm not hiring you, either.
"One thing I am also sick of
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 02:54 β Anonymous (not verified)"One thing I am also sick of tired of reading on their candidate statements in the first paragraph is how many generations their families have lived in Washington State. Yes, I know. It is very, very hard for people like us to get work from people like you in our communities. So, I'm not hiring you, either."
Well said. They're not all-American enough.
Patty Murray, btw, also made
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 02:59 β JM (not verified)Patty Murray, btw, also made this really obnoxious comment about the health care giveaway to the health insurance companies. That voters "would understand" when the benefits "began to trickle in."
What kind of respectful Congressional representative asks people to park their brain at the door and "just trust" the elites?
I've never even voted for a Republican because I just am against so much that they stand for, but I'm sick of this kind of thing from Democrats. It's completely against the meaning of informed citizenry in a democracy.
Let them get out Afghanistan and open up Medicare and create jobs for all groups of citizens (including the middle-aged), and save social security and, in short, DO THEIR JOBS FOR A CHANGE !!
On those 39 names, there is
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 03:45 β JM (not verified)On those 39 names, there is practically ZILCH INFORMATION in the media in Washington state. The Democrats just expect you to vote for these characters because they're "Democrats." That's what these political hacks are about. Arrogant and disrespectful. That's what the poor quality newspapers in this state are. Full of it. There is no information about all these names. The media doesn't do their job either, getting information out to United States citizens who can vote (not to mention, full-fledged Washingtonians, even if they haven't spent their individual life here vicariously through other generations for 150 years). Where is that campaign money going (not to mention the information)? Probably into their parties with their donors who live in their expensive homes and don't produce any jobs in their state for their fellow citizens.
I would also appreciate seeing more of the national alternative press giving publicity to those candidates around the country who deserve it, if they care so much about change. Talk about the local elections in which real progressives are trying to supplant these political chatchkas we should be throwing away.
So let Obama worry about Obama. Americans, if they're smart, should be telling their non-representatives that they're thinking about themselves TOO.
It's the Democrats in
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 03:54 β Anonymous (not verified)It's the Democrats in Congress who seem to have forgotten, through their poor performance, that George Bush happened, not to mention, Ronald Reagan.
When will they ever learn ?
When will they ever learn ?
They really need to (figuratively speaking) face reality, and bust some heads. Rid themselves of their individual attachments to more terms in office courtesy of corporate funding. It's not like any of them will be at the food bank, as a result of really serving the interests of their country.
Last night Mr. Jules Siegel,
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 04:07 β inL.A (not verified)Last night Mr. Jules Siegel, tonight Mr. William Rivers Pitt...
Who's up next?
How does anything change when you're asking voters to accept the status quo? Why should our government change anything if we continue to blindly support them?
FISA, Earmarks, torture, NAFTA, bailouts, Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, immigration reform, abuse of power, DADT, DOMA, ENDA, "health care." Forcing people to buy health insurance is not progressive, and neither is the elimination of all private as well as public insurance coverage for abortion.
We have one party in this country and it's here to serve the corporations.
>"Sun, 08/01/2010 - 00:44
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 06:37 β Anonymous (not verified)>"Sun, 08/01/2010 - 00:44 β Anonymous (not verified)
"I never said Obama didn't try to close Guantanamo. . . . In my opinion Obama hasn't tried." (Anon. at 00:18)
Bit of a contradiction there."<
No contradiction. I never said in my original post that Obama hadn't tried to close Guantanamo. What I did say was that Obama hadn't tried to investigate or prosecute the Bush administration, which he didn't. I did say that he hadn't tried to stop the war in Afghanistan which he hasn't. And I said that he hadn't tried for a single payer option on health care which he didn't.
>"Also, use of the "bully pulpit" does not mean he can automatically change votes in the Senate when they aren't there. That could backfire and make him look weak.<"
Of course using the bully pulpit doesn't automatically change votes. And it doesn't make the President look weak if it doesn't work. What it does do is alert the voters as to who is blocking legislation that the voters want so that the voters can target the blocker or blockers in the next election. What it does do is to show that the President is trying but is being blocked.
>"Obama is doing tons of things (see Anon. 23:18). Some of you are clearly determined to give him zero credit, no matter what. You're either willfully blind or Republicans."<
As for the issues Obama has addressed most were small periphal issues and while it isn't bad that he did them they aren't going to change the country. On the big issues that he addressed many are seriously flawed.
Hate him because he's
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 10:17 β Anonymous (not verified)Hate him because he's black??? No. Actually, his ethnic origin was a source of hope when he was elected. I am often - and mistakenly - called "right wing" because I am a libertarian, but racism is just as abhorrent to me as it is to any sane human being.
My objections to Obama are 1) he is shredding the Constitution of this country even more egregiously than his predecessor - who was the worst president in history in this regard. 2) He is continuing to rack up a bill (started by Bush II) that our great, great grandkids won't be able to pay off. 3) He is continuing and escalating the failed wars of his predecessor. 4) He pushed for a bill that will force me to buy medical insurance I cannot afford - and had the audacity to call this health care "reform." 5) He hasn't closed Guantanamo - the most dishonorable stain on US honor in history - and he is continuing and expanding the rendition program. 6) He campaigned on a promise of open government, but continues the legacy of secrecy. The list goes on and on.
No, my objections are to his performance in office, not to him personally on ANY basis. And said performance is so appallingly bad that he must be sent packing in 2012. MUST.
Don't put words in my mouth, please.
I agree with Anonymous 18:42
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 10:46 β morgan 1 (not verified)I agree with Anonymous 18:42 as well as two others--The issue for me is my disgust with his failure to act decisive. None of us expected him to fulfill his promises for too much was broken b y Bush/Cheney, but we did expect him to work at it and make progress on the issues he made clear he was address--The war, Gitmo, health care, but he caved on it all. For me, being done with him was the health care debacle but the writing was on the wall when he surrounded himself with the very people who brought the economy down, those who wanted more wars and the profiteers who were making money off their failures. I haven't forgotten about Bush and Cheney--I want them two in particular facing charges for criminal conduct and war crimes--Same for Powell, Rice, Yoo and dozens of others. I consider Obama an accessory after the fact and a traitor to this country.
I consider the Republicans
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 13:32 β radline9 (not verified)I consider the Republicans as traitors to this country, not Obama. When the Republicans get back in because of the "amnesia problem", the tide will shift and everyone will be angry as hell at the people in power no matter who it is. Having Obama for president is as good as it is going to get.
When Obama campaigned he
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 14:08 β Anonymous (not verified)When Obama campaigned he said he all voices would have a place at the table and that because of this progress would be slow. He also said that he did not win the election, the people did. So what the people need to do is call out the GOP for being the tyrants that they are. This will not be easy as their money and anger has drowned out the voices of reason and compromise and when they see an olive branch they call it poison.
We USED to be a country that
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 16:21 β Anonymous (not verified)We USED to be a country that recognized when this was being done...and gave the Soviet Union grief about withholding info, white-washing their history, rewriting facts to suit their political needs. American democracy...where have you gone? Down the Corporate rat hole.
The issue is really much
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 17:01 β bvc (not verified)The issue is really much simpler than everyone here is trying to make it.
The Obama presidential campaign was celebrated by the advertising industry as a stellar achievement in
what do you call it?
marketing?
branding?
propaganda?
spin?
bullshit?
all of the above?
All of the above.
When FDR took office the first 100 days were virtually revolutionary.
Obama's first 100 days?
Reactionary.
It really is that simple.
Obama is not now
nor never was
a progressive
a liberal
or a democrat.
With his mandate on taking office
well, if he had ANY balls
and wasn't so obviously afraid of his own death
he would have done SOMETHING
ANYTHING
I freely admit to having racial issues with Obama
I had hoped he was a black man
Cognitive dissonance is the
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 17:09 β PublicAdvocate.com (not verified)Cognitive dissonance is the operative term for Obama supporters. It's not much different than those who supported Bush/Cheney policies on The Clear Skies Initiative which permitted more pollution, Healthy Forests which was more about giving way to corporate clear cutting of public lands, and No Child Left Behind which eliminated teaching critical thinking in favor of memorization.
Pitts list of pitiful Obama policies are eclipsed by Obama's continuing:
domestic spying
perpetual war for oil and gas corporations
health care reform [sic] benefiting HMO and pharma not citizens
expanding US military occupations and violence into other nations
financial reform as meaningless as so-called health care reform
greater secrecy in government
million dollar bonuses for Wall Street crooks and homelessness for their victims
continuing the patriot act [sic]
escalating the US military occupation violence in Afghanistan
Hillery was right about Obama's skill at running his mouth.
Anyway, people who liked Bush/Cheney and their policies should be pleased with Obama's policies which look like more of the same.
Allow, if you will, a little
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 18:30 β Overthefence (not verified)Allow, if you will, a little backyard chat.
I am a Canadian who has long resented the mouse/elephant relationship this country has with yours. When you were under Cheney/Bush, with their "those who are not with us are agin us"
approach to foreign policy, our refusal to go to Iraq cost us a long and somewhat acrimonious (not too, this is Canada) debate about alliances ("Man, when your allies go, you go!) and trade ("You really want the US to be mad at us?"), Canadians are in a way, like a lot of the world, de facto citizens of the US because decisions taken in Washington always affect our daily life (we paid for part of the collapse of GM for instance). But we cannot affect White House policy. Sort of like taxation without representation. So we mostly grumbled through the Bush years, were flabbergasted when you dared to reelect him, and totally discouraged when we realized how slim the majority for Obama was (after 8 years of history reversal and denial, thousands of unnecessary corpses, breathtaking lies and vicious destruction of human rights, half of the men in the US voted against him!).
So yes, like a lot of you, we rode the Obama hope tsunami. And yes, we also knew that a lot of you would be disappointed when we saw you congratulating yourselves on being a great nation again because you had elected a black president. You did, indeed, immediately go into denial of the 8 year mistake, because again you did not want to atone.
But mistakes take time to correct and politics is the art of the possible.
What Obama, though, has certainly done, is that the strong, unanimous anti-American has all but evaporated in the "friendly" countries, and abated in others. That IS a result. Those de facto US citizens mentioned above are now cheering for him, because we know our life with Obama is much easier. It is SO clear from over the fence that our hope is now that the somewhat idealistic and impatient supporters who are now deserting Obama will find the political strength (yes strength) to support him for another 6 years. Yes, we too are disappointed. But the disappointment is more with the unmoveable pigheadedness of the US (notice how I don't say American?) electorate and the shameless propaganda machine that passes for information in your media.
Stay the course (to quote "them").
Or you could indict Cheney.
This country is in big
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 19:45 β Anonymous (not verified)This country is in big trouble. Yes, GW and his administration was horrible. So was Reagan's and every administration that followed.
And now we have Obama. I voted for Obama. What I am disappointed about is who surrounds him. His choice of Duncan for his secretary of education is just BAD and WRONG.
I could go on, but won't. Obama needs to do some housecleaning, and surround himself by better people rather than what he now has.
Yes, this country IS in big
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 21:03 β Anonymous (not verified)Yes, this country IS in big trouble. I (a Canadian) lived here for 30 years before becoming an American just last year. I was one of millions who watched in horror as Bush won first one, and then the next, election.
I believe that the luxury of standing one step away affords a more clear view of how America is destroying itself from within. I completely agree with the previous Canadian writer. Obama has done so much more than he is given credit for. Blame the Republicans for always succeeding in controlling the message. Blame the media (and here I constantly wonder if its members have children and/or grandchildren who will inherit the mess they have participated in creating). Blame the ineffective and seemingly impotent and feckless Opposition.
But as an activist myself, I also blame those who, as the previous Canadian writer identified, have turned sour on the only hope for change. We CANNOT allow disillusionment, anger, bitterness or apathy to create an environment where the Republicans and their truly bizarre and destructive policies gain ascendancy once more.
The future of this country where its life blood, ordinary Americans, fail to thrive, is unthinkable. And if we allow, yes, ALLOW Obama to fail, we have only ourselves to blame. There is no one else on the stage who is able to take his place. For that reason alone, in spite of all the steps backward that we feel we have taken, we must keep moving forward, small inch by inch.
We cannot imagine, much less understand, the million and one pressures on our President. It is all well and good to sit at our computers banging out stinging letters, but what good is it if that changes nothing? I have entreated my children to join their student peers and choose one day when every student in this country leave their desks and march for their shared future. But the please fall on deaf ears. I call my friends and beg them to picket with signs, but that too falls on deaf ears, and I go alone. My local Democratic party group posts articles describing how the Democrats and Obama are failing, but none of them actually want to get up and DO anything.
This impotent ranting but inability to actually effect change is what is going to kill all the good that the United States represents. The forces against us are immense -- Republicans, a completely traitorous Media, a monolithic corporate and military complex that literally calls the shots -- and we do nothing but write whiny letters? This is war, and we are losing it.
Oh please, "Mr., Mrs. and/or
Sun, 08/01/2010 - 23:49 β S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Oh please, "Mr., Mrs. and/or Ms. Former Canadian", stop whining about so-called "whining"! Part of the process of seeking to hold the psychopaths and sociopaths in control, is by ranting, complaining, debating, writing, friendly arguing, pointing out where people are wrong, trying to wake up the populace to what is really going on and where it's leading that the vast majority of them have no idea about (and think everyone who tries to tell them about is supposedly a fruitcake, "conspiracy theorist", "tinfoil-(mad)hatter", alarmist, extremist, a "Republican" and/or "right-wing" when they're not, etc.), exaggerator, and the list goes on.
It's all part of free speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and the state Constitution of whatever a state you live (they all pretty much have constitutions which emulate the federal Constitution, most particularly the Bill of Rights), which you were supposedly to have studied and come to truly and fully understand in order to responsibly swear the oath to the Constitution and become a U.S. citizen. Did you really understand the Constitution, because it doesn't appear like you did? Please get something straight: People can "whine" here as much as they want! God knows they have more than good reason(s) to do so!
(As long as they don't make threats of physical violence, otherwise violate the laws that are completely Constitutional, and/or break rules of TruthOut which are totally legal and Constitutional.)
Here's the scary part:
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 01:02 β frank1569 (not verified)Here's the scary part: according the RNC website, the GOP 'platform' is EXACTLY THE SAME as it was in 2000. And in case ya haven't noticed, they're already ramping-up the BE AFRAID and ONLY MORE WAR CAN KEEP US SAFE bullshit - bomb Iran is back, Islamists want to destroy civilization is back, bomb N Korea is back.
BTW, Bush saved Haiti after the earthquake and has a Bestselling Book that... he... wrote coming in Nov. And the Dallas Morning News reports his 'team' is busy 'rehabilitating' his image. So what he used Gitmo to conduct torture experiments...
"Sat, 07/31/2010 - 22:43 β
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 02:14 β Anonymous (not verified)"Sat, 07/31/2010 - 22:43 β Anonymous (not verified)
"by MEANS of Holy Joe Lieberman, for whom he campaigned!"
Actually, Obama shifted his support to Ned Lamont before the 2006 election:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/26/AR2006102601187.html
And in case you can't recall recent history, Lieberman endorsed and actively campaigned for McCain/Palin.
Lieberman is absolutely no friend of Barack Obama.
But don't let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories."
Obama indeed campaigned for Lieberman and switched to Lamont when he defeated Lieberman in the primary and was running as a Democrat. He no doubt would also have shifted his loyalties had the daughter of the Delta Blanche Lincoln, for whom he also campaigned, lost.
Holy Joe, Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans gave Obama the stage he needed to put on his bipartisan bystander act, allowing a hideously deformed corporate friendly bill to pass.
No conspiracy, just the politics of Rahm Emanuel, who was Hillary's guy during the primaries. Of course, as a ballet dancer, Rahm is fast on his feet.
"I have learned that the
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 03:57 β jahf (not verified)"I have learned that the number one reason for failure in any movement is the inability to accept success in the "increment" of the moment ... getting to the goal takes millions of baby steps ... "
I have heard it said that two ten-foot leaps does not get one across a twenty-foot wide chasm ...
What the Obama critics will
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 13:34 β ESanchez (not verified)What the Obama critics will not be able to supply is a viable alternative for 2012.
Let's make this clear. By
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 15:14 β Anonymous (not verified)Let's make this clear.
By 2012, Obama may withdraw, as LBJ did.
We will need a "viable alternative" then. We also need to give Obama a strong primary challenge. Since his presidency seems to be built exclusively on trying to convince us that his feeble actions meet his campaign promises, maybe we can get him to focus on real change during another campaign.
At the same time, we may expect that Mitt Romney will have a strong chance of being elected, and the "viable alternative" will then be an ongoing, principled third party or reformed Democratic Party (their choice).
S. Wolf Britain - so
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 15:27 β Anonymous (not verified)S. Wolf Britain - so typical... put the First Amendment in YOUR mouth to shut up other person's mouth. This "Mr., Mrs. and/or Ms. Former Canadian" is as much an American as you are.
I can't think of anything worse then of those "rightfully" armed with their "only the way I understand" amendments, bibles, guns, ignorance, arrogance, and disgusting, intentional lies.
"By 2012, Obama may
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 15:47 β Anonymous (not verified)"By 2012, Obama may withdraw, as LBJ did."
In yr dreams.
Romney a potential threat, yes, but also a Mormon in a country unlikely to elect one. Third-party "viable alternative" = return to la-la land (i.e., clear as mud).
Excellent post by the American citizen @21:03.
Fool me once.......
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 18:30 β Anonymous (not verified)Fool me once.......
@ "Anonymous -- Mon,
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 19:43 β S. Wolf Britain (not verified)@ "Anonymous -- Mon, 08/02/2010 - 15:27":
I have absolutely no desire to "shut up", or silence, "former-Canadian's" or anyone else's freedom of speech. I was simply exercising my freedom of speech and expression to "argue" against their premise which is antithetical to free speech; AND I HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT(S) TO SAY IT AS THEY DO TO SAY WHAT THEY SAID!
Furthermore, I do NOT feel in any way, shape form or fashion WHATSOEVER that I am the only one who understands things correctly. NOR do I in ANY way believe that everyone must understand things the way I do. So please stop falsely accusing me of things, particularly because you obviously can't handle the truth.
I'm NOT the only one who possesses the truth, NOR do I think that I know everything, or that I can't be wrong. I do NOT know everything, and I COULD be wrong. Now go ahead and jump on that to claim I am supposedly wrong, without any accurate evidence and/or proof of it. For, all you can apparently do is make ad hominem attacks.
On the other hand, I DID give proof and/or evidence of "former-Canadian's" attempted stifling of free speech, thus I did NOT make an ad hominem attack on them. They feel impotent, as I often feel; but I do all that I can do that won't get me locked up forever, while whiners about "whiners" try to claim my efforts are supposedly "worthless".
If I am locked up forever (no doubt very soon to happen to ALL dissenters and activists), I probably won't be able to seek to effect any real change for the better (if the government even lets most, or any, activists and dissenters go on living); so we all, particularly fully physically disabled people like myself, do what we can.
"By 2012, Obama may "Mon,
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 22:43 β Anonymous (not verified)"By 2012, Obama may
"Mon, 08/02/2010 - 15:47 β Anonymous (not verified)
"By 2012, Obama may withdraw, as LBJ did."
In yr dreams.
Romney a potential threat, yes, but also a Mormon in a country unlikely to elect one. Third-party "viable alternative" = return to la-la land (i.e., clear as mud)."
In my nightmares, actually. There is good--conservative, by the way--economic thinking from the 30's onward, that the worst thing we can do is put on the brakes, as Obama's commission and Republicans (little difference) are likely to do. Deflation may lead not just to "double dip" but to depression. Obama is indeed a clueless egotist, but conditions may send him packing.
If not Romney may defeat him. The Mormon business didn't stop him from being elected Governor of MA, an unlikely base for Mormon support.
Third party? Yes, indeed. If you want greater clarity on that, read some US history.
The irony of Romney's
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 23:15 β Anonymous (not verified)The irony of Romney's situation is that Mormonism has been more of a liability with the GOP "base" (very base indeed!) than elsewhere. Thus, his success in liberal MA, where one's personal religious convictions aren't such an issue.
At present he does seem the likeliest contender although no doubt others will come out of the woodwork. Personally, I don't see Cantor, Gingrich, Huckabee, Jindal, Palin, or Pawlenty as serious contenders or as having a prayer against Obama--and I don't think the GOP strategists do either.
History's one thing. I don't see any traction at all for a third party at present. In 2008 both Nader and Barr both fell well short of 1%! There's quite a mountain to climb there.
If it does happen again, I'll probably be glad to see it--just so long as it doesn't hand the election to the Republicans.
I do strongly believe that this country would be much better off and much less polarized if we had more than two viable political parties.
"Die Politik ist die Kunst
Mon, 08/02/2010 - 23:31 β Tom Outland (not verified)"Die Politik ist die Kunst des MΓΆglichen."
("Politics is the art of the possible.")
--attributed to Bismarck
To my way of thinking, the liberal Obama supporters truly understand this statement whereas his liberal detractors don't.
"To my way of thinking, the
Tue, 08/03/2010 - 03:37 β Anonymous (not verified)"To my way of thinking, the liberal Obama supporters truly understand this statement whereas his liberal detractors don't."
You mean they speak German?
"You mean they speak
Tue, 08/03/2010 - 04:15 β Anonymous (not verified)"You mean they speak German?"
Still borrowing clichΓ©s from old tea parties?
For example, Obama made a
Tue, 08/03/2010 - 13:20 β Bob (not verified)For example, Obama made a deal/commitment/promise, in early 2009, to the health insurance cartel and the giant pharmaceutical companies that he would produce a health care bill they liked. In the summer of 2009, he extended that deal/commitment/promise to the big hospital chains, promising specifically there would be no public option in the health care bill.
He lived up to THOSE promises. And gave us a corporate -friendly bill that is not health care reform, but in fact prevents genuine reform for years to come.
And many timid and too-ready-to-compromise liberals believed the lies coming from the White House that Obama supported a "strong public option."
For example, Obama decided the day after the election to fill his administration with Robert Rubin/Goldman Sachs types in all the relevant areas. Right after taking office, he changed the mark-to-market rules, which allowed Wall Street companies to hide their billions (trillions?) in toxic assets through accounting gimics.
Then he supported a financial bill (NOT a financial reform bill) that doesn't end too big to fail and doesn't regulate the derivatives market. The Volker Rule - a set of policies designed to limit reckless behavior by banks - was so watered down Volker himself disowned it.
The bill does create a Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, then buries it inside the Fed, effectively neutralizing it.
And if any of you think Obama is actually going to nominate Elizabeth Warren to run the agency, you need to take a pill. Putting her on the short list - with two other possibilities - was just another substance-free gesture to the left.
Obama campaigned as a moderate liberal, which is what he was during his years as a legislator. However, once he took office - in retrospect, by election day - he became a DLC / Blue Dog Democrat. With a pro-Big Business, pro-Wall Street agenda, which is why his cabinet is so full of conservative Democrats.
If all of that wasn't bad enough, he decided to continue the assault on the Constitution that was wrought by Bush/Cheney. That, to me, is unforgivable.
Why are liberals
Tue, 08/03/2010 - 13:29 β Bob (not verified)Why are liberals disappointed or dismayed or outraged?
For example, Obama made a deal/commitment/promise, in early 2009, to the health insurance cartel and the giant pharmaceutical companies that he would produce a health care bill they liked. In the summer of 2009, he extended that deal/commitment/promise to the big hospital chains, promising specifically there would be no public option in the health care bill.
He lived up to THOSE promises. And gave us a corporate -friendly bill that is not health care reform, but in fact prevents genuine reform for years to come.
And many timid and too-ready-to-compromise liberals believed the lies coming from the White House that Obama supported a "strong public option."
For example, Obama decided the day after the election to fill his administration with Robert Rubin/Goldman Sachs types in all the relevant areas. Right after taking office, he changed the mark-to-market rules, which allowed Wall Street companies to hide their billions (trillions?) in toxic assets through accounting gimics.
Then he supported a financial bill (NOT a financial reform bill) that doesn't end too big to fail and doesn't regulate the derivatives market. The Volker Rule - a set of policies designed to limit reckless behavior by banks - was so watered down Volker himself disowned it.
The bill does create a Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, then buries it inside the Fed, effectively neutralizing it.
If any of you think Obama is actually going to nominate Elizabeth Warren to run the agency, you need to take a pill. Putting her on the short list - with two other possibilities, both of them Robert Rubin clones - was just another substance-free gesture to the left.
Obama campaigned as a moderate liberal, which is what he was during his years as a legislator. However, once he took office - in retrospect, by election day - he became a DLC / Blue Dog Democrat, with a pro-Big Business, pro-Wall Street agenda, which is why his cabinet is so full of conservative Democrats.
But the worst example is that he decided to continue the assault on the Constitution that was wrought by Bush/Cheney. That, to me, is unforgivable.
This is very simple, folks:
Tue, 08/03/2010 - 16:05 β EDGEOFNOWHERE (not verified)This is very simple, folks: the office of "President" of the US is strictly a formality without any real authority. The country, and indeed a good portion of the planet, is actually run by others. The political parties in the US are quite irrelevant.
The left isn't upset because
Tue, 08/03/2010 - 19:44 β Anonymous (not verified)The left isn't upset because he hasn't met those lofty goals but because he has abandoned them ALL & not met a SINGLE one!!!
Iraq still there
Afghanistan still there
Medicare for ALL caved in
Bush tax cuts for the wealthy not repealed
DOMA & DADT not repealed (DADT just needs HIS order as Commander In Chief!!!)
Renewable energy & industries forgotten instead we get more drilling & renewed nuclear.
What HAS he accomplished - not a DAMN thing worth celebrating!!!
Failure at every issue!!!
DO SOMETHING HE PROMISED HE'D DO!!!!
ONCE!!!
We would cheer heartily but as it stands he needs to slink back into a hole in Chicago and let a real leader lead.
Change we can believe in - none we've seen!
Anyone interested in
Wed, 08/04/2010 - 18:11 β Anonymous (not verified)Anyone interested in listings of Obama's accomplishments will find them above.
It's not worth listing them again for fools who ignore ANYTHING that doesn't conform to their ideological preconceptions.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! I was a
Wed, 08/04/2010 - 18:13 β leftofanywhere (not verified)WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I was a miserable nobody when Bush was prez!
Barack Obama is now prez, and I'm still a miserable nobody!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Correction(s) [in capital
Thu, 08/05/2010 - 00:36 β S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Correction(s) [in capital letters]:
Oh please, "Mr., Mrs. and/or Ms. Former Canadian", stop whining about so-called "whining"! Part of the process of seeking to hold the psychopaths and sociopaths in control ACCOUNTABLE, is by ranting, complaining, debating, writing, friendly arguing, pointing out where people are wrong, trying to wake up the populace to what is really going on and where it's leading that the vast majority of them have no idea about (and think everyone who tries to tell them about is supposedly a fruitcake, "conspiracy theorist", "tinfoil-(mad)hatter", alarmist, extremist, a "Republican" and/or "right-wing" when they're not, etc.), exaggerator, and the list goes on...
Or, even better: Oh please,
Thu, 08/05/2010 - 00:51 β S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Or, even better:
Oh please, "Mr., Mrs. and/or Ms. Former Canadian", stop whining about so-called "whining"! Part of the process of seeking to HAVE the psychopaths and sociopaths in control HELD ACCOUNTABLE, is by ranting, complaining, debating, writing, friendly arguing, pointing out where people are wrong, trying to wake up the populace to what is really going on and where it's leading that the vast majority of them have no idea about (and think everyone who tries to tell them about is supposedly a fruitcake, "conspiracy theorist", "tinfoil-(mad)hatter", alarmist, extremist, a "Republican" and/or "right-wing" when they're not, etc.), exaggerator, and the list goes on...
Dear Will R Pitt: I haven't
Fri, 08/06/2010 - 18:11 β Frances in California (not verified)Dear Will R Pitt: I haven't read the article yet, but after 10 years of feeding on your wisdom and text, I'm pretty sure I will find myself agreeing and enjoying your writing skill. I'm giving you pre-emptive kudos because you always stimulate the panicky rightwingers for some reason, so they come to dump their manure on you. Please accept my freelance "air freshener". ~ Frances in Calif.
Speaking of 3rd Parties: A
Fri, 08/06/2010 - 18:18 β Frances in California Again (not verified)Speaking of 3rd Parties: A viable 3rd Party doesn't stand a chance in USA electoral politics now. That's unfortunate because what the American People need now - desperately - is a chance at a true coalition government. As long as the Electoral College persists, 3rd Parties can't win. Abolish the monarchist Electoral College and the People can begin to participate meaningfully.
Anonymous on 8/1 at 00:54 -
Fri, 08/06/2010 - 18:50 β Frances in California Again and Again (not verified)Anonymous on 8/1 at 00:54 - "Rachel Maddow the same as Ann Coulter"? No . . . Rachel's an actual woman. No "Y" chromosome!